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The was recently burninated but just today I've seen it on at least a couple of new questions. It seems very likely this will continue and it won't disappear for long without help so suggest it is blacklisted.

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    Never should have been removed in the first place. What a ridiculous waste of time.
    – jscs
    Commented Jan 25, 2019 at 23:47
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    @JoshCaswell yeah, we should have seen that this would happen and should have blacklisted it, not just burninated.
    – Braiam
    Commented Jan 26, 2019 at 10:02
  • Right now searching shows no questions tagged[design]. They may have been removed since this post was listed on 'hot meta posts'
    – Will
    Commented Jan 26, 2019 at 22:45
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    I still see none. Hopefully whoever's removing them can keep it up until the Tag Roomba arrives.
    – wizzwizz4
    Commented Jan 27, 2019 at 10:42
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    @JoshCaswell the burns are my least favourite thing on the site. They're exhausting and there's usually always fall out
    – user3956566
    Commented Jan 28, 2019 at 8:03
  • As long as this page returns 404, the tag doesn't exist. Need to keep a lokkout tho
    – Machavity Mod
    Commented Jan 28, 2019 at 13:14
  • @JoshCaswell Out of curiosity why shouldn't it have been removed?
    – Krupip
    Commented Jan 28, 2019 at 15:25
  • Answered below, @opa
    – jscs
    Commented Jan 28, 2019 at 15:52
  • It would help if you had included the tag definition (before it got deleted), since this is a pathologically broadly-named tag whose name could mean almost anything to all people, and said name could be misconstrued to apply to nearly 100% of SO. If it was only supposed to apply to e.g. 'class-interface-design', then it should have been named that. Even 'interface-design' would have been overly broad and would have been misapplied to UX, GUIs and lots of other unintended things.
    – smci
    Commented Mar 17, 2019 at 7:31
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    This tag is alive again, there are 17 questions Commented Mar 10, 2020 at 10:06

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This has been completed:

image displaying the system warning displayed when a user attempts to use the "design" tag

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This tag should not be blacklisted. As I have explained on the burnination post, it never should have been removed in the first place:

It served a useful purpose in marking questions that are about decisions regarding interfaces and component interaction in code, while writing that code.

At worst, it applies to questions that might be better-suited for the Software Engineering site, but that doesn't make them inherently off-topic here.

We should permit its use on appropriate questions again.

Here are some examples of appropriate questions for the tag:

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    How could we enforce that it only gets used on "appropriate questions"? Or, more specifically, what examples you can provide that are "appropriate questions" that are on topic for SO and doesn't apply any other tag?
    – Braiam
    Commented Jan 28, 2019 at 15:59
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    The community burninated it a little over a month ago - it would be strange for us to say that this tag is OK at this point. Commented Jan 28, 2019 at 16:01
  • Changing a policy decision is impossible, @EJoshuaS?
    – jscs
    Commented Jan 28, 2019 at 16:18
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    @EJoshuaS hey, we can, collectively, make mistakes. Heck, probably most of the time we would. But Josh doesn't offer any concrete reason why we made a mistake.
    – Braiam
    Commented Jan 28, 2019 at 16:19
  • I did, in the linked answer, @Braiam.
    – jscs
    Commented Jan 28, 2019 at 16:24
  • @EJoshuaS: It was burninated because it was an unsalvagable mess. If it weren't for the natter attraction it would be brought back shortly. We could perhaps bring it back under a long name.
    – Joshua
    Commented Jan 28, 2019 at 16:32
  • ux.stackexchange.com seems like a much better place for design questions than Software Engineering (or the main SO site.) Commented Jan 28, 2019 at 21:08
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    Yes, @DanielBeck, Graphic Design is definitely off-topic here. "Design" in the context of a programming website means programming design.
    – jscs
    Commented Jan 28, 2019 at 21:13
  • UX also doesn't mean graphic design, but I take your point. Commented Jan 28, 2019 at 21:15
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    @JoshCaswell I guess we technically could, but it seems a little weird to change course so soon after making the decision unless we have a really, really good reason (especially since you only objected to the burnination after the fact, not while we were actually considering it). Commented Jan 28, 2019 at 21:21
  • Design questions should be on topic here. Programming is not only about debugging things...
    – Gudradain
    Commented Jan 28, 2019 at 21:55
  • Design questions are on topic here. And we should have a tag for them.
    – jscs
    Commented Jan 28, 2019 at 22:04
  • "objected to the burnination after the fact" This argument makes no sense to me: if the decision is wrong, it should be disregarded. It doesn't matter when it happened. Unless there's some cost to changing now. Which I don't see. In fact, there's less cost, because no-one has to monitor the tag and keep removing it.
    – jscs
    Commented Jan 28, 2019 at 23:34
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    It is highly unlikely that linking to the same arguments that failed to convince people to not burninate the tag is going to convince people to not blacklist the tag. If you want to convince people that this is an acceptable tag you are going to need to come up with a new argument and evidence to support it.
    – Joe W
    Commented Feb 5, 2019 at 18:24
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    A major part of the problem with the design tag is that it's ambiguous as to what it means in different contexts and to different people. If you want a tag that indicates the concept behind the questions you provide as examples, then use a tag that is more specific to exactly what those questions cover. "design" is just way too broad an area to really be a reasonable tag. Can someone be an expert in "design", definitely not. They can be an expert in a specific type of design (i.e. something that has a much smaller scope).
    – Makyen Mod
    Commented Feb 5, 2019 at 19:46

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