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I just came across this question with a weird title: C# Challenge - Deleted Copyright Issue, so I opened it to find no content at all and that it just says:

Deleted - copyright issue, not suppose to share publicly.

Is this behavior acceptable? The question has three answers already, two of them have 5 or more upvotes so removing the content of the question like this affects the value of the question as well as the answers.

Clearly, this was done as a way to get around the limitation of deleting questions with upvoted answers. So, my question is what should I do in such a case?

  • Rollback the edit and explain to the user that this behavior is unacceptable and that he/she can flag the question so that a moderator can hide confidential information (if any).
  • Flag the question for a moderator intervention.
  • Just let it go and excuse the user considering his action justified by the reason mentioned in the edit.
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    It has upvoted answers and an accept. I rolled it back. If SO staff wish/need to delete it because of a genuine copyright violation, court order, whatever, then fine. Commented May 13, 2018 at 5:12
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    If that content is in violation of copyright they could file a DMCA request. I'm not sure if that works if they are not the copyright holder and are just trying to hide plagiarism or school assignments.
    – rene
    Commented May 13, 2018 at 6:45
  • @rene I was about to roll the edit back actually but I just wanted to make sure it's the right thing to do. Should I leave a comment on that question with a link to this one so the OP knows his/her question is being discussed so that he/she can benefit from these suggestions?
    – 41686d6564
    Commented May 13, 2018 at 6:56
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    Under the ToS it is stated that once posted they granted SE the irrevocable license to publish the content. Deleting it like they did is in violation of the ToS which is the reason rolling back such edits is allowed and your actions are covered. Most often the OP's don't like that outcome. So feel free to invite them but don't be surprised if you don't get cheered
    – rene
    Commented May 13, 2018 at 7:10
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    @rene wow, that's a bit...strange. Let's say I post some algorithm as an answer. A day later, I realise it's actually patented and thus should not have posted it. I am then unable to remove or change it. At the same time other people may have already used it without permission and I cannot even stop more people from using it. The only way to remove it would be for the IP holder to send a DMCA request to SO. It's a bit of an extreme example but still - core of the problem is that apparently I wouldn't be able to comply with copyright even if I want to.
    – VLAZ
    Commented May 13, 2018 at 20:04
  • @vlaz yeah, I didn't write the legal stuff but I don't think it is strange as content is the business model SO floats on. Don't post patented algorithms or any other stuff that isn't yours and / or should remain secret.
    – rene
    Commented May 13, 2018 at 20:16
  • @rene it was a hypothetical example. I'd definitely try not to post copyrighted material but I might fail. Also, somebody else might fail and I might notice or vice versa. Bottom line is that the TOS makes it quite confusing to untangle once such a situation occurs. Even then, the only way to do it is to contact the IP holder who needs to step in.
    – VLAZ
    Commented May 13, 2018 at 20:28
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    @vlaz: Since the code was never yours to license to begin with, you never licensed it to Stack Overflow, and they were never allowed to distribute it. However, they can a) argue good faith and b) sue you for any damage caused since you misrepresented yourself as being allowed to license the code to Stack Overflow. But in no way does this mean that you cannot get rid of that code any more, that would be ridiculous. As soon as Stack Overflow are notified that you made a mistake, they are no longer acting in good faith and must remove the content. Commented May 13, 2018 at 20:37
  • @JörgWMittag ah, thanks for the clarification. Reading the TOS led me to believe that anything I contribute is automatically considered to be licensed as CC and also property of SO, unless there is a DMCA request.
    – VLAZ
    Commented May 13, 2018 at 20:39
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    @vlaz: You cannot license something to Stack Overflow that you aren't allowed to license. Period. People make out copyright law as something ridiculously complicated, but really, it's as much common sense as any other law. Commented May 13, 2018 at 20:39
  • @JörgWMittag see, that's exactly what I thought, but the TOS wording confused me.
    – VLAZ
    Commented May 13, 2018 at 20:40
  • @vlaz: Look at this way: the TOS does not mean that anything you post automatically becomes licensed to Stack Overflow under CC. Rather, it means by posting something that you cannot license under CC, you violate the TOS (and are thus not allowed to post it). Since you violate the TOS, the TOS don't apply (otherwise you wouldn't be violating them). Commented May 13, 2018 at 20:42
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    If it worked the way you (mis)interpreted it, that would be a trivial loophole to open source anything and everything. Just set up a website which says "anything posted here is GPL", then bribe a Microsoft employee to anonymously post the Windows source. Commented May 13, 2018 at 20:44
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    @c0D3l0g1c You can do those kind of edits as long as you don't invalidate the answers.
    – user2285236
    Commented May 14, 2018 at 20:32

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In the first instance you should roll back the edit. However, don't sit on the question and start an edit war should the OP re-edit it. You could leave a comment reminding the user that they should edit the question to remove any copyright material, but that they shouldn't invalidate the answers.

If that happens then flag the question for moderator attention. Use the "other" option to explain exactly what's going on. We may already have the auto "rollback war" flag as well, but that depends on how the OP reacted. We'll take it from there.

Don't get involved in any arguments over the post.

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    "Don't get involved in any arguments over the post." That should be Official Commenting Rule #2... It solves several questions I've read on Meta today... Commented May 15, 2018 at 2:02
  • This may solve this example, but is this the best strategy for such cases in general? What about flags for users that remove most content of a question after it has been answered? Or what if indeed the question mostly consisted of copyright material. Editing copyrighted material out wouldn't remove it from the edit history and a more forceful approach may be needed then. Commented May 15, 2018 at 18:56
  • @Trilarion, flagging for a moderator is generally a good approach. Moderators will presumably alert SO staff if necessary.
    – dfeuer
    Commented May 15, 2018 at 19:32

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