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About once a week I get a "welcome back" message that encourages me to 'vote up questions' and won't go away without a click. Is it really necessary to ask people who have been around for 7 years to 'vote up' questions/answers?

That seems needlessly annoying.

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    I get this all the time on meta.stackexchange, it doesn't happen here. Kinda surprised Keng is getting it here.
    – Kevin B
    Commented Oct 8, 2015 at 17:59
  • @TinyGiant, no, I'm usually on throughout the work week. and Im sure I was on earlier this week but got it again today.
    – Keng
    Commented Oct 8, 2015 at 18:00
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    Hmmm... smells like a bug.
    – user4639281
    Commented Oct 8, 2015 at 18:00
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    I would edit the question to ask what the triggers for showing this popup are. Then it can be addressed. I don't think removing the popup entirely is a real solution to the problem.
    – user4639281
    Commented Oct 8, 2015 at 18:09
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    Yeah, sounds like a bug. I'll edit the question so the team notices
    – Pekka
    Commented Oct 9, 2015 at 0:13
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    Well that question deserves an up vote .... just to make sure I don't get that pop up.
    – dave
    Commented Oct 9, 2015 at 13:05
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    This is mainly an annoyance for my less-frequented SE sites... but it's equally irksome there. Commented Oct 9, 2015 at 13:28
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    burniate it please!
    – JonH
    Commented Oct 9, 2015 at 16:06
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    I used to get all sorts of reminders about voting on questions etc. Haven't had one in ages. Maybe it stopped, or maybe it retrained me, who knows?
    – user207421
    Commented Oct 10, 2015 at 0:03
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    @Rizier123 I sure do hope that all those keen on downvoting all the crap take the pain to leave comments on why they are so keen on downvoting...
    – landroni
    Commented Oct 11, 2015 at 10:14
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    In the past, I primarily upvoted answers when I searched for a solution to a problem. Therefore I also got this reminder regularly. But nowadays I usually upvote the questions too, because without the question I wouldn't have found the answer. So for me, this is not an issue anymore. Commented Oct 11, 2015 at 10:24
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    despite all the fun done here, it is still annoying, sigh
    – Zac
    Commented Nov 9, 2016 at 9:17
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    I get this message about every other visit to any site on SE. And that's not exaggerating much. It feels like it shows every time, but sometimes, few they are, it doesn't. Extremely annoying. Considering enabling adblocking just to block it.
    – Noein
    Commented Feb 25, 2019 at 13:01
  • @Narfanar Same for me, it's ridiculous. Once a week would be fine, but not every visit. Commented Mar 13, 2019 at 22:04
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    You can make this obviously dumb UI go away with an adblocker that can permanently block elements like ublock origin: ghacks.net/2017/02/21/…. Wake up, SE UX team!
    – jordanpg
    Commented May 13, 2019 at 14:28

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From Meta Stack Exchange:

Welcome back! If you found this question useful, don't forget to vote both the question and the answers up.

The message

Welcome back! If you found this question useful, don't forget to vote both the question and the answers up.

only appears if

  • you haven't been seen on the the target site for 24 hours

  • you hold a valid user cookie on the target site

  • your account has more than 15 rep on the target site

  • you arrive on a question from a search engine

  • you have not already voted on this particular question and answers

Therefore, you shouldn't ever see it more than once per day per site. And if you are on the target site(s) frequently enough you may never see it.

Voting on questions that help you in your research is critical: these votes are a very strong signal to the system that the question is relevant and needed. Voting is often overlooked, especially on questions; a reminder for folks who infrequently visit is worthwhile.

Note that if you're seeing this banner and do not meet the conditions described above, then that is indeed a bug. However under normal circumstances it isn't unusual to run into it when visiting the site from, say, Google after having been away for a day (or weekend...)

Note also that the "time away" appears to have been increased to 48 hours at some point, so I'd blame weekends under normal circumstances.

Last note: to check the days that the site has seen you, click the "visited..." link on the "profile" page of your profile:

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    It's weird, but I still sometimes remember to vote thanks to that popup. For whatever reason, if I arrive by googling AND am on a site I don't frequent, the lack of vote-muscle-memory on that specific site, plus being mid-problem seems to cause me to forget.
    – Jaydles StaffMod
    Commented Oct 9, 2015 at 17:36
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    "you shouldn't ever see it more than once per day per site"....wow...a forced click to clear a message box to give information that I have known about since 2008....hmmmmm.....that is....disappointingly annoying...and more likely (read: certainly) going to get the opposite results than intended. maybe the powers could consider something less asinine like a 3 second delay to clear itself.
    – Keng
    Commented Oct 9, 2015 at 17:47
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    It's been in place for 4 years, @Keng - really, a minor annoyance for a rather critical reason. If you have suggestions for improvement now that you know how it operates, please post them separately as a feature-request.
    – Shog9 Mod
    Commented Oct 9, 2015 at 17:53
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    @Keng all you need to do to avoid the banner is visit the site more.
    – user4639281
    Commented Oct 9, 2015 at 17:54
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    So this feature exists for and is made by you @Jaydles? ;)
    – rene
    Commented Oct 9, 2015 at 18:01
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    I too find it annoying, but really it is a minor nuisance. What if the ability to turn this off is given as a privilege? IE: If you have 100 rep (or whatever level) an option is now present in settings to turn off this message?
    – L84
    Commented Oct 10, 2015 at 0:32
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    This answer states that "you shouldn't ever see it more than once per day per site" yet I frequently do. If I only saw it once a day I would not have been annoyed enough to find this question. I think that what I do to see it frequently is to search on google, open an SO question, close the "Welcome Back", navigate from a link in the question, use the back button. Then I see "Welcome Back" again. If this could be solved I would be SUBSTANTIALLY less annoyed.
    – Rik Renich
    Commented Nov 10, 2018 at 20:35
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    Would it be a good idea to disable this message for users that have some minimum of up votes on questions and answers? Or perhaps a badge based on up vote counts that allows a user to disable the (annoying) feature? Clearly anyone with 1000 up votes on each doesn't need this instruction. What is an appropriate threshold?
    – Rik Renich
    Commented Nov 10, 2018 at 20:50
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    @Shog9 Thanks for the informative and seemingly correct answer. I have upvoted this answer for those reasons. To those that can change the policies, please make the criteria fit the problem. I am a long time casual user of the site, and am grateful enough for it that I would like to help you improve the site. Toward that end I have spent over an hour trying to figure out how to suggest that this "Welcome Back" message be removed.
    – Rik Renich
    Commented Nov 10, 2018 at 21:13
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    @Shog9 I think time has shown that this major annoyance has not helped, and still only pisses off long-time users. I'd love to see your analytics showing that someone who visits less than every 24 hours needs to be reminded that they have an account.
    – zymhan
    Commented Nov 12, 2018 at 14:57
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    A year and a half later, and this annoying popup is still there. It doesn't remind me to do anything; it's just noise, like all the annoying cookie warnings. They serve no purpose whatsoever except contribute to RSI. Commented Jan 4, 2021 at 12:33
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    Ah. "More than 15 reputation". This explains why I suddenly started getting this banner on all stackexchange links I click. After many years I finally got the "yearling" badge that grants 100xp on any site you join. The only option seems to be to disable all stackexchange "overlay-header" elements with a styling extension. Now I won't see any banners :/ Ah well...
    – lodewykk
    Commented Jun 23, 2022 at 9:30
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    Do you (StackExchange) have metrics that show this popup achieves its goal? It hides the search bar and "Products" buttons, any impact on those? I agree with @Keng : it feels more like a punishment for not visiting the site often enough...
    – ixe013
    Commented Jan 6, 2023 at 15:15
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    Yep, still happening. "48 hours" away from the site? That deems it necessary to remind me yet again? I work with StackOverflow every day, but I tend to have weekends off! Do I really need to be reminded because I didn't use Stack Overflow ALL WEEKEND? Commented Mar 20, 2023 at 14:51
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    Add me to the list of longtime users who find this to be a major annoyance, not a minor one. Maybe I'm too impatient. I get super-irritated when I visit a site looking for certain info, and anything, no matter how small or seemingly unobtrusive, gets in the way and requires me to click it to make it go away. Anyway, like others, I've added a custom style that will permanently hide #overlay-header. Commented Jun 26, 2023 at 16:07
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I've gotten the pop up if I get to Stack Overflow via a Google search for some issue. I just did a search for "arcobjects GetDesktopWindow memory usage" and got this:

Screenshot of "Welcome back!" message on the GIS stack exchange.

I was also able to get it on Meta Stack Exchange by searching for something I knew would result in a link to a question there. (Last time I was on Meta was the 5th of October.)

However, I can't seem to make it happen on Stack Overflow on purpose (I obliterated the cache, cookies from Chrome and logged out), although it has happened recently. Perhaps it also has to do with how long it's been since you've voted.

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I've just created a user style that hides these annoying overlays that always get in the way of other relevant content. Just like with overlay ads, I hate this kind of UI.

#overlay-header
{
    display: none !important;
}

This can be applied to all the domains you have an account for, like:

  • superuser.com
  • stackoverflow.com
  • stackexchange.com

For Firefox, I use the Stylus extension.

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    Hmm. This will hide all instances of overlay-header. What is the chance we may be missing out on other important headers?
    – lodewykk
    Commented Jun 23, 2022 at 9:25
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At the very least, the message should be reworded to make it more clear that only useful answers should be upvoted, instead of:

enter image description here

How about something like:

Welcome back! Don't forget to up-vote useful questions and answers.

Or appeal to altruism:

Welcome back! Help other programmers by up-voting useful questions and answers.

Let's not forget that down-votes are just as important as up-votes. If the user lacks the privilege, omit the part in brackets:

Welcome back! Use up-votes [and down-votes] to help other users find the most useful questions and answers.

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You can use this userstyle to hide the welcome back message on all Stack Exchange sites: https://userstyles.world/style/4744/hide-stack-overflow-stack-exchange-welcome-back-message

This requires a userstyle extension, like Stylus.

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"Pleased to see you in Solitude, stranger!" ~ Fenrar


I have probably never forgotten to upvote a question post or do it almost always, yet I believe this message is unfair and has no purpose for those who read it significant enough to show it for everyone. Why do you believe people "forget" to upvote question posts? I believe it is a personal trait, and if a person read the message and just refuses to do so, it's their choice, or isn't it? Is that sudden UI-blocking message a constant provocation and illusion of choice that is impossible to mitigate without an interaction?

This message acts like "semantic satiation" of some sort losing the whole point, I believe.

Semantic satiation is a psychological phenomenon in which repetition causes a word or phrase to temporarily lose meaning for the listener,[1] who then perceives the speech as repeated meaningless sounds. Extended inspection or analysis (staring at the word or phrase for a long time) in place of repetition also produces the same effect.

Source

To be frank, I am sorry, but I literally have no idea what is written in this message. It seems like an ad, and I never did read it in full, even if I am on StackExchange websites almost every single day and with this exact message appearing on various screens 200 or more times in all those years. Why? Obviously or not, I just see "Welcome", consider it a general greeting or ad that appears due to cookie/session/cache issues or features/forces a yet another "solution" for anything I didn't even have a trouble with, and blazing-immediately click that "close this message" to it hopefully never appear anymore again and don't lose ideas or precious thoughts in mind I have while researching.

It distracts, it disturbs, it hurts psychologically.

Related

- Never Tell a Lie

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    "it disturbs, it hurts psychologically" - that feels like an exaggeration, especially considering that, by your own admission, you haven't even read the thing.
    – F1Krazy
    Commented Jun 25 at 15:19
  • I don't think my statement is an "exaggeration", @F1Krazy. I realize what and how I say. The whole process of this message appearing all of a sudden, and forcing to close it to reveal important website controls, hurts researches and rhythm. A constant sudden thinking that it may randomly appear again, doesn't help, too. It de-focuses from the initial question you had in mind when opened the web page.
    – Artfaith
    Commented Jun 25 at 15:23

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