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After phase 2 feedback, we've made a few tweaks to how recent hot questions are chosen, namely to better incorporate your tag preferences.

Here's a debug page that highlights which questions are hot in a pleasing bisque:

https://stackoverflow.com/home/recommended/debug

While the homepage will have caching, the debug page currently doesn't; refreshing will pick another batch from the last several thousand questions that were asked (and are answered and upvoted), allowing you to better gauge what will be consistently selected for you.

We're mostly happy with this iteration and will be moving soon to A/B test its results - don't worry, we won't go live without detailing how the tests went (or if we'll even make any changes).

So, does this recommended tab look better than your current interesting tab?

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    Yes, it's definitely much better now.
    – Sam
    Commented Sep 10, 2014 at 19:09
  • Oh yes this is nice.
    – Jordan.J.D
    Commented Sep 10, 2014 at 19:18
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    Much, much better! Well done! Commented Sep 10, 2014 at 19:32
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    The mere fact that I can now filter what shows up based on whether or not it's been answered already wins my vote. Commented Sep 10, 2014 at 20:10
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    This is awesome!
    – TylerH
    Commented Sep 10, 2014 at 20:12
  • Lost a couple of on hold questions and some bounties in subjects I know nothing about and gained a couple of the hottest questions over the last 24 hours... much better than the previous iteration!
    – Ben
    Commented Sep 10, 2014 at 20:50
  • This does look so much better!
    – Fynn
    Commented Sep 10, 2014 at 21:43
  • Very good. I've already answered a couple questions off that page!
    – Undo Mod
    Commented Sep 10, 2014 at 22:27
  • Much more useful! Commented Sep 10, 2014 at 22:45
  • "Here's a debug page" pure awesomesausage.
    – Braiam
    Commented Sep 10, 2014 at 23:14
  • It's much better, but I get a result for excel in both pages that isn't interesting for me. I have ignored all tags for windows and ms-office (not the sub-ones for word, excel ...) so I don't want to see excel results (and there were no other tag in the question that I marked as a favorite)
    – msrd0
    Commented Sep 11, 2014 at 8:58
  • I like it. I immediately got the feeling it was more useful, and more pertinent. I did not check if it was a founded feeling, though :-)
    – rob
    Commented Sep 11, 2014 at 9:55
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    Is there any chance that dev page can stay around, like, forever? I really like the condensed title format, it's quickly scannable.
    – Undo Mod
    Commented Sep 11, 2014 at 14:26
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    am I the only one that actually likes the table grid layout thats there currently? Kinda nice, no flufff.
    – iamkrillin
    Commented Sep 11, 2014 at 15:20
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    Is the debug URL supposed to be available on all sites, or only on Stack Overflow? It works on all Stack Exchange sites at the moment. (@Undo)
    – gparyani
    Commented Oct 8, 2014 at 6:06

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Might be a minor thing, but a way to filter out messages that are closed (especially under Needs Answer) would be helpful

Great layout overall

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I see more questions that I would like to read, so ... good job.

But... This is maybe out-of-scope for the current set of improvements, as it probably will require an entirely different algorithm/approach. However, it may be a good suggestion for further improvements.

I have still a difficult time finding questions that I would like to answer. For me, most of the questions there are too "easy": questions you could easily answer in a few lines, or with a quick google search.

I personally look for questions and answers with more depth; I know, it's probably a personal preference, but it should show from my answer history. If I prefer to answer to long, elaborated questions from users with high rep, I probably like "hard" questions; same if my answers are long and convoluted: I might be interested in answering a long, well written question which has only a short, almost-link-only (or code-only) question.

My 2 cents

EDIT: Let me make an example.

This question is in my list (C# command line add reference to Microsoft.Office.Interop.Excel)

  • Is it relevant to my favorites? Yes, I have C# among my favorite tags.
  • Is it a question worth answering? Yes, I suppose. Simple questions do find a place on SO.
  • Could I answer it? Definitely
  • Would I answer it? No... It's just not my cup of tea.

This question (How to convert an event to an IObservable when it doesn't conform to the standard .NET event pattern) and this one (Y-combinator implementation in javascript and elixir) are also in my list. And I like both of them (acutally, I was answering the first one but someone was faster...)

Could an algorithm see it? Probably yes, using a combination of question score, my history, question length...

It is not simple; indeed, there are some very difficult tags. Javascript, for example, and to a lesser extent C#. I do like Javascript, the language, and C#, the language. I do not like questions about web page fiddling or about windows forms controls. They are entirely legitimate questions, but they are beginner's questions and I do not have time (unfortunately) to answer all the questions I can answer. Distinguish among them is quite hard. Understand if I, as a user, prefer "hard" or "simple" questions is hard as well. But someone can always wish it, right? :)

I wonder: how high-rep users (Eric Lippert, Jon Skeet, Mark Gravell, Hans Passant.. to quote e few active under the C# tag) find questions they like to answer?

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  • I think that's more a problem with how people ask questions on SO in general than anything that can/should be fixed by the homepage algorithm. Commented Sep 12, 2014 at 7:23
  • @ValekHalfHeart I thing that it's not entirely a problem on the "quality" of questions: there are good questions which are simple, and require a simple answer. It's a question of "preference", and "discover" what the user prefers. I edited to include an example. Commented Sep 12, 2014 at 9:28
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So, does this recommended tab look better than your current interesting tab?

Not really, I still am getting questions I shouldn't like: error ios device addingg in wso2 emm

I don't even know those tags, I don't think they even exist on my profile, and if they do they were accidently answered.

Also this is of no interest to me: Emulating aspect-fit behaviour using AutoLayout constraints in Xcode 6

Nor is: Couldnt load module: undefinded symbol: dissector_add

So it looks the same, not worse but also not particularly awesome either.

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  • You can always put in ignored tags. :-X Commented Sep 11, 2014 at 13:21
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    @Michael true that thugh you could say that the algorithm should be intelligent enough, with my activity, to know what I like to read
    – Sammaye
    Commented Sep 11, 2014 at 14:08
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    That first question is one that no one should like. We should be filtering that kind of stuff out before it ever gets posted, not just sweeping it under the rug by hiding it from our top answerers.
    – Cody Gray Mod
    Commented Sep 12, 2014 at 7:25
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    +1 Same for me. I've got a haskell question appearing for some reason (What can I do to make this ghci infereced signature to compile). I have never answered such a question, AFAIK. I know nothing about the language or any of the tags. Also How to compile clojurescript to nodejs? appears - another question I can't fathom. On the whole, the noise ration has improved though. Commented Sep 12, 2014 at 8:42
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As of the instant this answer was posted, the link https://stackoverflow.com/home/recommended/debug is sporadically generating an error. Sometimes when I go there, it works, but in other small cases, I see an error page instead. I'm pretty sure that this was working before; so why is it generating an error at times?

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  • Anyone else able to repro?
    – gparyani
    Commented Sep 11, 2014 at 15:42
  • I've got a log of the exception; investigating... Commented Sep 11, 2014 at 15:48
  • @JarrodDixon What caused the exception?
    – gparyani
    Commented Sep 11, 2014 at 16:47
  • As usual, looks like an issue w/ caching. A fix has been deployed that hopefully prevents the blowup. Commented Sep 11, 2014 at 19:26
  • @JarrodDixon What's the specific revision?
    – gparyani
    Commented Sep 11, 2014 at 20:33
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I'd prefer to see something that felt more curated, that was like a friend saying "hey, did you see this interesting question". I don't see the difference between what's in "Recommended" now and just going to my favourite tag (which is what I do now). It doesn't make me want to look at any of the questions. It doesn't save me effort.

My suggestions:

  • Focus less on question age. Focus more on quality. Don't just put up the newest questions, put up the best questions and answers from the previous 24 hours. How can you call a question with down votes "Recommended"?
  • Allow questions to bubble up instead of being bumped down after a few minutes (use votes, views, stars, shares, inbound clicks and comments to determine rank).
  • Show a snippet of the question and a snippet of the top answer. The list of titles is just unappealing. Use fancy JavaScript to hide snippets for anyone that wants it that way.
  • Some users consistently provide great questions and answers. Highlight those people.
  • Allow me to favourite users so I can see their recent answers.
  • Put in a control to let me see the best from the previous 24H, 3 days, 1 week and 1 month.
  • Allow mods and high rep users to actually highlight interesting content. This is different from an upvote or favourite. It says "this is interesting and should be seen".

I'm guessing that your idea of recommended is different that mine. You're wondering about how to get people to answer these questions. I'm wondering about how I can find interesting answers to read.

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Minor bug, I think. If I click 'toggle x more favorites', it expands to show x more favorite tags. The toggle remains titled 'toggle x more favorites', even though clicking it a second time will show x fewer favorites.

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    It is a "debug" page...
    – Andy Mod
    Commented Sep 11, 2014 at 1:02
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    That is what toggle means...
    – CJ Dennis
    Commented Sep 11, 2014 at 1:04
  • @CJDennis - Toggle means "activate". When I click a button that says "toggle (activate) 4 more favorites" I don't expect 4 options to disappear! The word "more" should become "less" once all are shown. Well, "fewer" I guess since it's countable. Commented Sep 11, 2014 at 1:32
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    Toggle means "switch from one effect, feature, or state to another"... So when none are shown, "Toggle x more favorites" means ON, and when they are shown "Toggle x more favorites" means OFF. It would be different if it said "show" or "display".
    – polarysekt
    Commented Sep 11, 2014 at 6:25
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    @polarysekt sounds like it is ambiguous enough that it should be rephrased Commented Sep 11, 2014 at 9:38
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    As the sentence does not specify which favourites it's talking about it can both be interpreted as toggling another set of favourites or the previous set of favourites. The existance of the word 'more' however implies the former of the two, thus I am with Roddy here. Commented Sep 11, 2014 at 15:06
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    Just drop the more and stick with toggle x favourites, that way everyone's happy.
    – SeinopSys
    Commented Sep 12, 2014 at 15:42
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A reliable system would not be limited to "recommended/interesting/hot" pages but instead, would cover all the typically used ones: front page, questions and tag pages etc.

At these pages, system would limit visibility of potentially troublesome questions only to users with reasonably proven ability and explicit desire to evaluate such content - for example to users over particular reputation (500... 1K... 2K) who additionally consciously picked an option to view such content.

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  • "out of sight, out of mind... Make low-quality questions less visible immediately. Don't wait until they get downvoted - figure out if they're problematic and immediately tuck them out of sight until/unless they're fixed. Not just on the homepage, but on tag pages as well..." (quote source)
    – gnat
    Commented Oct 22, 2014 at 15:20

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