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I posted a question earlier today about changing grid sizes.

Here is the body of the question - Having problems trying to resize gridworld grid

So I basically want to resize the grid in gridworld the default 10x10 to whatever I want I've been testing it with 15x15 just to see if it works but I can't seem to figure this out and other sources on the internet say that what I'm doing should work.

(Creating small game for project) However, my question was rejected due to "Several of those things are not code" Here are some examples of what was crossed out and what was proposed. Although first I would like to add, my code was blocked off using Ctrl+K I've asked questions before all very similar to this and have never had a problem. I ATTEMPTED my problem which is something a lot of people don't do and I had a clear and specific problem. Nothing crazy abstract.

Anything in () is what was crossed out or edited

"(So) I (basically) want to resize the grid in (gridworld the) default (10x10 to) whatever I want I've been testing it with (15x15 just) to see if it works but I can't seem to figure this out and other sources on the internet say that what I'm doing should work.

(this) class is where I resize the grid"

Insert code for Class A here

"This class is the runner for the actor"

Insert Code for Class B here

"(Any help is appreciated, thanks.)" <--- Am I not allowed to be polite and say thanks?!

In the end my question is. How are we supposed to speak? In my opinion people that are very strict like this create an unfriendly environment. We are here to learn and are looking for friendly community help. Speaking like automatons isn't to friendly to me.

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    Is there a way to get the downvotes removed? and possibly the question rolled back?
    – Adamc23
    Commented May 16, 2014 at 15:27
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    Regarding the "thanks" meta.stackexchange.com/questions/2950/… So no, no "thanks".
    – Bart
    Commented May 16, 2014 at 15:28
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    The downvotes are not likely the result of the edit, they are likely the result of not asking the question thoroughly. I just posted the text of your post and it is a run-on sentence that is not very clear. Commented May 16, 2014 at 15:28
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    Link to the question?
    – cHao
    Commented May 16, 2014 at 15:32
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    @Adamc23: There's no edit history on that question. If someone other than you had edited it, there should be.
    – cHao
    Commented May 16, 2014 at 15:35
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    I would indeed significantly edit that post. Not so much to to make you sound like a robot, but to fix several obvious issues.
    – Bart
    Commented May 16, 2014 at 15:36
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    @JayBlanchard: I found it a little hard to parse how the post was edited; it looks like it was a suggested edit and it was rejected, the actual post has not had such an edit applied. Commented May 16, 2014 at 15:39
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    Generally we're not editing to make you feel stupid or to be an ass @Adamc23. See it as us helping you out for free to improve your content. To make it more clear and concise so you get the answers you want/need and it's of lasting value to all the peoples of the intarwebz.
    – Bart
    Commented May 16, 2014 at 15:39
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    @Adamc23: That link says that the edit was rejected. "Several of these things are not code" is the reason given by the mod who rejected it. (The would-be editor was using backticks for emphasis, when they are meant for code and other verbatim input/output only.)
    – cHao
    Commented May 16, 2014 at 15:39
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    @JayBlanchard: Now that I've seen the actual edit, there is indeed much to be desired about it still. Removing 'So' and 'basically' was spot on, then it fell apart by using code formatting where it wasn't needed. Commented May 16, 2014 at 15:40
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    @Adamc23: Yeah, the text part is a bit of a rambly mess. I'd at least use decent grammar and split it up into actual sentences.
    – cHao
    Commented May 16, 2014 at 15:42
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    One thing that you can do @Adamc23 is to use sentences with punctuation. Those little divisions help to make your issue and question well-defined. Commented May 16, 2014 at 15:43
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    @Adamc23: (1) "Having problems" is even less descriptive than "doesn't work" -- and i hadn't even considered that possible til now. What problems are you having? What is happening that shouldn't? What isn't happening that should? The question needs to contain this info.
    – cHao
    Commented May 16, 2014 at 15:47
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    @Adamc23 You find signatures to be highly entertaining? Really? Most people are here because they find programming questions interesting. That is what is entertaining to them. Having to read through "Any help is appreciated, thanks." is what is boring and a waste of time.
    – Servy
    Commented May 16, 2014 at 17:11
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    @Adamc23 Mindless soul-less robots do not appreciate your humor. j/k! ;) <3 <3 <3
    – user456814
    Commented May 16, 2014 at 17:19

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First, your post was not rejected. It is, as I type, 4/5ths of the way to being put on hold so it can be improved. The improvements it needs are not for you to sound more like a robot. I often edit out chattiness in questions just to make them shorter - a person who knows how to solve your problem doesn't need to read all the context about how much a solution means to you - but that's not what's wrong with yours. You basically say:

I want 10x10 but I was testing with 15x15 and anyway here's my code.

What is the question? What is the problem? Does your code not even compile? Does it blow up when it runs? Does it run fine, but the grid is the wrong size? Or can't be resized? Or the data in it doesn't look right? You don't tell us. And that means until you do, nobody can really answer. Sure, people could write up some random stuff related to what you appear to be doing, but it will only be a matter of luck if that helps you.

Please, edit your question to be a question and to explain what help you need. Then you will get the help you need.

On the matter of "tone" and of editing chit-chat out of posts, I have an answer on MSE that may apply.

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    This is the thing I find most about new users: they don't ask a question. They post a problem, but no question to go along with it. And the implied "why doesn't this work?" is not good enough.
    – gunr2171
    Commented May 16, 2014 at 15:48
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    And they think SO is a helpdesk. It's not. Commented May 30, 2014 at 0:39
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You are not required to be a robot. However the legion of editors out there is indistinguishable from one. The protection against that is to make sure your question is clear and complete from the start so that nobody feels compelled to edit it.

Regarding the "thanks" at the end of the question, that goes back to an early philosophy for SO - anything that isn't part of the actual question is noise, and noise is actively harmful to the site. Jeff in particular was adamant that if that cruft were to accumulate it would imperil the long term viability of the site. He even put in code to remove what it could detect from the question before it was posted. I'm not sure if that code still exists today or not. Personally I think he took the philosophy way too far, but you can still see it in action today.

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  • Interesting. I've learned something new about how to write good SO questions. Is it ok to say 'thanks' in the comments? :-) Commented May 16, 2014 at 19:06
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    @MikeofSST, saying "thanks" in the comments is discouraged but not disallowed (yet). You might have noticed a question that's locked, and the text explaining the lock says it's to prevent "thanks" comments among other things. Commented May 16, 2014 at 19:27
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    @MikeofSST However there is a flag that can be raised against comments "Too chatty"
    – mmmmmm
    Commented Jul 24, 2014 at 12:05

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