I have noticed a common pattern:
Someone's question(s) on the main site is/are not well received
That person comes to Meta to ask about how to improve the question(s), perhaps due to seeing a warning about the algorithmic question ban
By way of demonstrating and verifying the issue, the Meta question mentions that the main-site question(s) was/were downvoted
The Meta question almost always receives a strongly negative score, even if OP:
- is polite
- does not appear to be complaining of unfair treatment
- is not proposing that the fault, in any way, lies with others
- seems to demonstrate a basic awareness of policy including e.g. reading the question-ban FAQ
- seems generally interested in asking better questions and becoming a better contributor to the site
I am not entirely certain as to whether the mention of downvotes is the cause of the poor reception, but it does seem to correlate strongly in my observances. In cases where the OP doesn't mention receiving downvotes, the Meta community may wonder why the feedback about question quality is being requested in the first place. (In one recent instance, information about downvotes was edited in after a comment exchange suggesting that the need for feedback wasn't clear, and things only seemed to get worse from there.) It also doesn't seem to play out in the same way when a question is closed and OP asks how to make the question more clear, more focused, etc.
Why does this occur? It comes across that many Meta users view such questions on Meta as inherently disagreeable; but I can't see a good rationale for this. Meta has tags like specific-question for a reason; I would have thought that it's specifically so that people who want to improve their questions can figure out how, and get advice tailored to those questions (or, at least, explanations of faults in the questions that they overlooked and which were not already pointed out to them).
This is not asking about the "Meta effect"; this only explains increased attention to questions that are referenced. I am asking about the Meta discussion itself - not about what happens in these cases to the corresponding main site question(s).
This is also not asking about Why isn't it required to provide comments/feedback for downvotes, and why are proposals suggesting this so negatively received? ; the phenomenon seems to appear whenever downvotes are mentioned, even when OP did not propose anything of the sort. As much as we don't require main-space users to comment, Meta seems like explicitly the place to solicit such feedback - not a place to receive the message, in effect, "you ought to know already what's wrong with the question", or even "don't worry about the looming question ban; people have arbitrary and capricious reasons for downvoting and it's wrong to seek out explanations or try to do anything about it".
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