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I was going over close votes, when I stumbled into this question. Notice it was put on hold because:

unclear what you're asking

Please clarify your specific problem or add additional details to highlight exactly what you need. As it's currently written, it’s hard to tell exactly what you're asking. See the How to Ask page for help clarifying this question.

Only this isn't entirely true. While the question is kinda not-specific, it is quite clear. The way I see it, the problem is he's not asking something specific but kinda asking "hey can you solve this for me?" (as one commenter very nicely puts it "Please always include things you've tried and researched").

And this isn't an isolated case, I constantly see questions where the bottom line is "This is my homework, can you solve it for me". I think it'll be good if off-topic will have another option, quoting the on-topic help:

Questions must demonstrate a minimal understanding of the problem being solved. Tell us what you've tried to do, why it didn't work, and how it should work

Here's a case where this was actually used (I'm guessing it either used to exist or that multiple voters used it in their comment as a special close vote). I know it might be a tad insulting for new users, but sometimes I feel like it's really necessary.

Maybe if we change the phrasing a little, it would be better suited. What do you think?

small update

I just went over close votes and saw this question. It's notable because the OP actually up and posted an entire assignment verbatim. It was also closed as "Too Broad" (which isn't true, the assignment is very specific) so it's a good example of the problem I mentioned.

However, much more important than that is the very well-written comment left by user @MichaelBerkowski:

When posting an assignment question, we are often happy to help you where you are stuck, given evidence of a solid effort and your current level of understanding of both the problem and the code you've attempted to solve it with. Not many of us are likely to provide a solution to an assignment problem asked in this way however

I think any the phrasing of my suggested close-reason should probably be some variation of that

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    That was an old close reason that is no longer available because it was being abused. I'm not sure why that text hasn't been removed from the help page yet.
    – BoltClock Mod
    Commented Apr 18, 2014 at 6:55
  • @BoltClock I suspected as much, but couldn't find any relevant discussion on the subject in meta (or anywhere). I can see how it might be abused, but in some cases it's the best fitting description. I still think it belongs on the help text, and also on the off-topic options. Not abusing it is the responsibility of moderators. Also - can't we just add some message that "are you sure this is your reason to close this question?" when it's selected, or maybe limit the times it can be used per day, all to discourage abusing it?
    – yuvi
    Commented Apr 18, 2014 at 7:45
  • I actually believe some of these are people who are interviewing rather than doing just homework -- As a hiring manager in many companies, I have frequently given people 45 minutes to write a program, not dissimilar to this: stackoverflow.com/questions/23419691/… -- and within a last few years I have been given pushback from people when they realize they don't have internet access when doing it.
    – Soren
    Commented May 2, 2014 at 2:19
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    related: How much research effort is expected of Stack Overflow users?
    – gnat
    Commented Jun 26, 2014 at 18:57
  • possible duplicate of Which flag options are the most suitable for question asking for codes without effort?
    – gnat
    Commented Apr 20, 2015 at 19:21
  • most of the links now point to page not found be this question is still critical
    – sandwood
    Commented Apr 19, 2018 at 7:55
  • @sandwood it has been 4 years, considering most of them pointed to bad questions, they were deleted. I can still see them (10k rep) but I don't think this question is important enough for me to undelete them. I'm not sure what's the best course of action here
    – yuvi
    Commented Apr 25, 2018 at 17:28

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I support the idea of this question. Reading the words after "unclear what you're asking" and the help pages very carefully leads to the lack of research reason but that is so far away from the words "unclear what you're asking" as to be unhelpful. Many of these question are very clear, the asker want some code written for them, or some pointers on how to write some code.

Think also of the asker whose question is closed because it is "unclear what you're asking". Their question is very clear to them. They might be able to add some more details but that would not change the essence of "please write some code for me". I do not see how the "unclear what you're asking" reason helps the asker understand the policies on what is or is not allowed.

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    I also see that for some homework questions "unclear what you're asking" is inapropriate. This is why I often think back and forth whether "too broad" is the better flag for some of those questions. However, often neither of these two flags fit well. Choosing the correct flag shouldn't be ambiguous, because it makes consistent flagging difficult.
    – honk
    Commented May 1, 2014 at 7:26
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Finding an appropriate close reason for a "do my homework" question Isn't that hard.

  • If they tell you what the assignment is, but they either don't ask a question about it, or ask for vague "advice", the problem is that as it's currently written, it’s hard to tell exactly what they're asking. Because of that, you should vote to close as Unclear what you're asking.

  • If they're straight up asking you do their project for them, the problem is that there are either too many possible answers, or good answers would be too long for this format. Because of that, you should vote to close as Too Broad.

If you both understand the question, and don't think that the question is asking for too many things, and if it's not closeable under any other close reason, then you should really re-consider whether the question really needs to be closed.

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    What bugs me is that it's plenty clear what they're asking and what they're asking for is quite narrow. It's just unspeakably lazy and it wastes everyone's time. (I guess it would be fitting to click on a random close reason instead; if they're too lazy to do their homework, I can be too lazy to give a proper close reason. But that seems kinda weak.)
    – tmyklebu
    Commented Jun 26, 2014 at 19:06
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    @tmyklebu It's not narrow at all. The question that was linked was asking at least 3 different questions he even numbered them himself, and it was likely asking more. Even a simple homework assignment such as "Take 2 numbers from the user and print their sum" is asking you how to 1. Take input from the user, 2. sum the numbers, and 3. print output. That's 3 different questions. Definitly too broad Commented Jun 26, 2014 at 19:09
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    I don't buy it. You can decompose almost all good questions into "multiple" questions like that. stackoverflow.com/questions/24406069/… is plenty narrow enough, but you could say it's asking (1) why the representation of 170! is good enough, (2) why the representation of 169! is good enough, and (3) why the quotient rounds to 170.
    – tmyklebu
    Commented Jun 26, 2014 at 19:23
  • Compare with version 1 of stackoverflow.com/questions/24437686/… ; this question just says "Here's my homework. I'm not really sure how to do my homework; can you help me?."
    – tmyklebu
    Commented Jun 26, 2014 at 19:27
  • @tmyklebu that one falls into the first category Commented Jun 26, 2014 at 19:28
  • It doesn't though. He's asking SO to do his homework. It's very clear.
    – tmyklebu
    Commented Jun 26, 2014 at 19:29
  • @tmyklebu go back and look at that question. What is the sentence in there that actually ends with a question mark Commented Jun 26, 2014 at 19:30
  • With that standard, the correct close reason then depends on the precise phrasing of the question, and I don't think that's desirable. Go back and look at the other question I linked. Neither of the sentences ending with question marks ask the legitimate question the broader post is driving at. (The first is clearly "too broad" and the second is founded on assumptions that are insane. However, the post itself conveys a good question.)
    – tmyklebu
    Commented Jun 26, 2014 at 19:34
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    @tmyklebu good god use your common sense! First off the example you gave is a very bad one because the OP is definitly not asking you to the entire assignment. In fact it looks like he's started on the assignment, but doesn't know how to approach one of the requirements, even if you look at the first draft. The problem with that question is that he hasn't effectively communicated that that requirement is. It's a cut and dry case of unclear what you're asking. Commented Jun 26, 2014 at 19:40
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    Huh? I am using my common sense. The question is crap because it will benefit nobody who's worth benefitting. But it's narrow and sufficiently well-specified that there's only one reasonable interpretation of what the poster wants. None of the canned close reasons fit the reason why the question should be closed, regardless of your valiant attempts to shoehorn "too broad" and "unclear" into fitting the purpose.
    – tmyklebu
    Commented Jun 26, 2014 at 19:44
  • @tmyklebu I might not have understood the problem that well because I'm not as familiar with the technology , but if you were able to understand what he ask asking for, and what he was asking for also doesn't take an unreasonable amount of work, than the question is not even a problem in the first place. Commented Jun 26, 2014 at 19:48
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    Nnggh. Context, dude. What makes me think it's a rentacoder problem? Because it'd make a good homework assignment. Why's it a bad SO question? Because it's "too localised" and it shows no effort whatsoever.
    – tmyklebu
    Commented Jun 26, 2014 at 22:56
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    @yuvi The effort put into a question is not important. It is the result of that effort that is important. So if someone asks a question that is clear, concrete, on topic, not a duplicate, but at the same time shows no effort, that it is still a good question, and not a candidate for closure Commented Jun 27, 2014 at 14:06
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    I don't think you're getting my point - I'm talking about bad questions - I'm saying that even if the close reasons you mentioned fit, the users who posted the questions can get confused because they address a technical issue - take the second example you mention, someone asking to straight up do his homework for him. Let's say he is not doing it out of laziness, he did try solving it, but he didn't share that information, and the result is a lazy question. He then sees it was closed because it's "too broad", which is both not true and wouldn't help him understand what he needs to better it
    – yuvi
    Commented Jun 27, 2014 at 15:18
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    @yuvi absolutely! We do not treat homework differently than other kinds of work. Commented Jul 14, 2014 at 14:30

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