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The Ask Wizard asks:

What did you try and what were you expecting?

Describe what you tried, what you expected to happen, and what actually resulted. Minimum 20 characters.

And we are getting lots of questions which say such things as:

I have tried ChatGPT which sadly failed

and

I asked chatGPT how to fix the code

and

I tryed and searched but i cant find for nodejs i only find for python but i dont use python

and

I searched two days on net but couldn't find anything that I can apply, so it would be good to recommend me a roadmap.

This isn't useful information (and the mentions of ChatGPT are depressing). We need information about how the asker tried to solve the problem, not vague descriptions of their research techniques.

Can the Wizard's question be edited to better elicit useful information from the asker?

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    They're preparing you... Commented Apr 18, 2023 at 9:55
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    Honestly, I don't think so. This is not an issue with the wizard but with the skill level of the person putting the lack of information there. They really do not know, they come to Stack Overflow to outsource the responsibility of finding out. As long as the wizard is merely a guide rather than a gatekeeper, this'll be what you have to live with.
    – Gimby
    Commented Apr 18, 2023 at 11:27
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    even worse, "I have tried nothing because I don't know"
    – ray
    Commented Apr 18, 2023 at 11:50
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    @Gimby Author skills are a problem, but all site documentation could be much clearer & specific.
    – philipxy
    Commented Apr 18, 2023 at 12:51
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    The Ask Wizard does improve spam. Can you imagine how much worse this would be without the wizard?
    – VLAZ
    Commented Apr 18, 2023 at 13:23
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    I'm seeing a lot of "I'm expecting an answer"...
    – jonrsharpe
    Commented Apr 18, 2023 at 13:59
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    And what wording would you suggest...? Something like "What did you try and what result/behaviour were you expecting? (Post your code.)"...?
    – chivracq
    Commented Apr 18, 2023 at 14:39
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    I'd suggest making it not mandatory so that if someone feels it isn't necessary for their question they can skip it. We've already established that not every question needs "what have you tried" to be a valuable contribution. Requiring it just results in people who feel they don't need it dumping fluff into it.
    – Kevin B
    Commented Apr 18, 2023 at 14:46
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    The only thing that should go into that box is an MRE - and the help text should spell that out and link to it. Everything that is not a debugging question does not require an attempt and the wizard should not imply otherwise. Commented Apr 18, 2023 at 16:36
  • I have noticed a lot of questions that have an additional line at the end that seems to summarise their question. I didn't know what was happening until I noticed that there is a "What did you try?" prompt when creating Questions. Has this always been there? Commented Apr 19, 2023 at 2:24
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    @JohnRotenstein only since the Ask Wizard was released
    – VLAZ
    Commented Apr 19, 2023 at 8:08
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Maybe rephrasing around the word attempt could be a way out?

Something like:

Show your attempt at solving this problem, what you expected it to do, and how the actual result differed from what you expected. Minimum 20 characters.

Maybe even add “Ideally, show the minimal piece of code you wrote or used.” with a link to MRE – but I think keeping the prompt short increases chances of it being actually read.

I also think changing Describe to Show is just as key in this rephrasing, but it applies less to non-debugging questions.

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  • I'm sorry, I put the status-review tag on the wrong question...I'd intended to put it on this question alongside my suggested solution. I'd invite you to post your suggestion there as well, so that we have all the suggestions together. Unfortunately, there's not a good way for me to move either my answer or yours over without destroying the existing comment discussions.
    – Ryan M Mod
    Commented Feb 1 at 1:34
  • No worries, I’ve copied my answer over there @RyanM
    – Cimbali
    Commented Feb 1 at 13:19

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