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I asked this question at the beginning of 2023: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/74996560/bash-command-line-args-tab-auto-completion-from-a-database-service

With no comments or replies for a few weeks, I came up with an answer on my own.

But the question was auto-deleted by the bot after a month.

Now nothing can be done to a question given this banner:

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    Your question sounds a lot like a "Seeking recommendations for books, tools, software libraries, and more" request
    – Lino
    Commented Feb 7, 2023 at 13:15
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    Reading the question, I have no idea how the body relates to the title. The question in the title is likely a duplicate, the question in the body is off-topic. Why should this be undeleted? Have you considered to edit it to make it worth undeleting? Commented Feb 7, 2023 at 13:41
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    Anyway. We shouldn't have to explain this to someone who has an account over 12 years old with a couple dozen questions spaced out over the years, but the question here (if there is actually a question at all) is blatantly off topic. Please read How to Ask and stackoverflow.com/help/on-topic, and note well that Stack Overflow is not a discussion forum. Commented Feb 7, 2023 at 13:44
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    What I am saying is that you treat Stack Overflow like a discussion forum by the content of the post. You are describing a design for a project. We don't do top-level design. We require much more specific questions. If you wanted the tool to exist already then you are looking for a recommendation for software, which we also don't do. These things are simply off topic. Consider Software Recommendations for the latter. Also, titles aren't a part of the post. The post itself should clarify what "this" is if you want to know whether "something like this" exists. Commented Feb 7, 2023 at 13:52
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    @KarlKnechtel, :/ I seek no "top-level design", instead the design (you said) was "laid out" to make it "much more specific" question. It looks more like SO moderated itself out of useful niche questions (which might be hard to answer immediately) towards those which are answerable quicly by the majority. Asking the same thing on Software Recomendations is a bit too late when I have the answer, right? I simply wanted to address the question closed by a bot (not human) for the other larger audience than judges of "content by the look of it" instead of the fact it caused no discussion.
    – uvsmtid
    Commented Feb 7, 2023 at 14:39
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    "I simply wanted to address the question closed by a bot (not human)" - Again, read the link I gave you. "instead the design (you said) was "laid out" to make it "much more specific" question" That doesn't make the question more specific; it explains why the question lacks focus. We don't mean "explain every point in the question"; we mean "have exactly one point to explain and the explicitly ask about". Commented Feb 7, 2023 at 14:50
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    "Asking the same thing on Software Recomendations is a bit too late when I have the answer, right?" No, not at all. That is not how SE sites work. We're building a library, and have no sense of urgency for answering questions. You can, and are encouraged to, self- answer questions (as long as it isn't, you know, for the purpose of promoting your own project). " It looks more like SO moderated itself out of useful niche questions (which might be hard to answer immediately) towards those which are answerable quicly by the majority" - no, "niche" has absolutely nothing to do with it. Commented Feb 7, 2023 at 14:52
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    For that matter: you've said a lot about what you think needs to be done in order for the tool to work, but it honestly isn't that clear what should happen when the tool is used. "I want to facilitate narrowing down arg values by: service name, cluster name or any other properties" - what does this mean? I assume you are talking about the command line arguments - of what program? The names of what services/clusters, and what do they have to do with the program whose command line you are completing? Commented Feb 7, 2023 at 14:56
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    Why should "a database service" be helpful in auto-completing a command? What database is it going to use to look up suggestions, and why is that better than just letting the shell do what it normally does? What command are you trying to auto-complete, and what is insufficient about its built-in autocompletion? Commented Feb 7, 2023 at 14:58
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    @uvsmtid "I considred many things - it took me a month to come up with a tool solving that problem. I just didn't know stackoverflow automatically deletes the questions." I'm not following how that relates to the comprehensibility and focus of the question. Sure, you might have avoided the automatic deletion if you knew its rules, but that doesn't mean that deletion was wrong in itself. The question appears to be blatantly unsuitable for SO. Commented Feb 7, 2023 at 15:18
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    "How is asking a new question (now when I know the answer) with my new project to address it is not a self promotion (what you suggest)?" Exactly because "my new project" is how you propose to address it. If the question needs something as complex as "your new project" to address it, then a) that is out of scope for Stack Overflow questions and b) the answer would be rejected as link-only (answers need to be able to stand on their own; and you presumably are not going to copy and paste all your source code into one answer, while also explaining every aspect of it). Commented Feb 7, 2023 at 16:04
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    "Replacing "useable solution" -> "knowledge base" just changing the language, not the meaning and the context. " No, there is a very important difference in meaning, that should be obvious. If I read a book about fly fishing, I should not be confronted with ads for tackles and lures, even if they are free and even if they are hand-crafted by the author rather than by a large corporation. Commented Feb 7, 2023 at 16:44
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    To be quite blunt, it comes across that you are interested in justifying your own actions and picking apart analogies, and not interested in accepting that you were wrong and that your proposal was against policy. I am done talking about this. Commented Feb 7, 2023 at 16:56
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    None of that matters, still, as the question is still off topic.
    – Kevin B
    Commented Feb 7, 2023 at 17:05
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    If there were any chance it could be improved, yes. In this case, the only improvement you could make would be turning it into an entirely different question... which isn't a reasonable reason to undelete
    – Kevin B
    Commented Feb 7, 2023 at 18:36

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Your question was deleted automatically by the Roomba due to its negative score. However, if it were undeleted, it would be closed due to being a recommendation request for an off-site tool or resource, and would likely just be deleted again (and rightly so).

While it may sometimes be OK to suggest a tool or library as an answer to a question (though usually some examples of how said tool answers its respective question are expected), it is never OK to outright ask for a tool or library here on Stack Overflow. We actually have a sister site dedicated for that kind of question: Software Recommendations.

You may be thinking "well, if I just change my question from 'is there a tool that does X,Y,Z' to 'How can I achieve X,Y,Z'", then please hold your horses; such a request is far too broad (qualifying for the close reason of "Needs Focus") because it would require someone to write an entire library (as you found out first-hand) to address. Questions on Stack Overflow should be specific, and reasonably-scoped. In other words, if it takes a blog post or a library to fully address the needs of a question, the question is too broad for Stack Overflow.

I see you have never taken the site Tour. I recommend you do that, and then review the On-Topic page of the Help Center if you have any further concerns.

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    "Statistically, do undelete requests mostly cause a repeated discussion for self promotion" Only when the undelete request appears to involve the desire to post a link to off-site code that completes a task, as opposed to answering a question that is part of a proper, searchable library. Commented Feb 7, 2023 at 16:30
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    @uvsmtid - A moderator had nothing to do with your question being deleted. Your question received a downvoted (likely due to the fact it wasn't within scope), likely so little to no views, which is the reason it was deleted due to inactivity. Your question has not been edited since it was deleted, so it's ineligible to be restored, since in it's current form it's still out of scope. The community typically will undelete a contribution not a moderator. Commented Feb 7, 2023 at 16:51
  • @SecurityHound I understand why the quetion is auto-deleted by a bot. I talk to moderators assuming they judge consiously (not automatically 1 downvote, 1 month old -> delete) and understand the harmful or beneficial consequences for SO and users looking for answers in that specific case. And I don't understand the moderators. What harm? Given no user gave suggestion to improve the question, the question is simply pending an answer. Why not let users judge?
    – uvsmtid
    Commented Feb 7, 2023 at 17:29
  • @uvsmtid Users did judge, by at best avoiding the question. The OP (in this case, you) is the only one who is the closest to being responsible to improve the question. That no one found the question useful or worth making it useful isn’t really a good sign… Commented Feb 7, 2023 at 18:18
  • @MisterMiyagi I don't think you understand - there is no way to improve anything if the question is deleted. There is also no way to know what to improve if there were no prior comments to that. Why not retry? If bot is just automatic. Isn't it what moderators are for?
    – uvsmtid
    Commented Feb 7, 2023 at 18:26
  • @uvsmtid You should still be able to edit the question, and it can still be undeleted. See the help center (at the bottom) on advice how to proceed. "There is also no way to know what to improve if there were no prior comments to that." It looks like you have received plenty of comments here already; if you need more, asking for them seems prudent. Commented Feb 7, 2023 at 18:39
  • @MisterMiyagi, the keyword is prior. To have this fruitful discussion, it had to be auto-deleted in a month, everyone had to spend time here. And at the end, the new question I'll ask will likely have no immediate answers (I've done the research already) than the one I was going to post anyway. So what is the role of moderator solving here for users? Another auto-bot? :)
    – uvsmtid
    Commented Feb 7, 2023 at 18:53
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    @uvsmtid The prior is a keyword only because you insist on it. You can still edit the question. You can still ask for and react to feedback. You can still get it undeleted and answer it yourself. So what is the role you think a moderator should be solving here for users? You are the one who can solve this. Commented Feb 7, 2023 at 19:02
  • @MisterMiyagi I tried, see the birght yellow banner here. Still is your theory. :) Mine one is that this process is only useful for moderators to upvote each other.
    – uvsmtid
    Commented Feb 7, 2023 at 19:25
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    Just as a heads-up: writing things like "X is your theory. :)" when you are being told how the site works, by experienced users who are regulars on Meta is really not the sort of thing that gets people on your side. Commented Feb 7, 2023 at 23:39

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