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There is a question recently posted by a user at this url:

parse-error-syntax-error-unexpected-echo-t-echo-in-c-xampp-htdocs-welcome

Which, after being open for a while, was closed as a duplicate (I believe wrongfully).

Once it was closed, I reviewed the answer that it was marked as a duplicate for, but there was no solution on the page for this specific issue. I believe it was closed because the titles were similar, as the question that was marked a duplicate has the same error code that the linked question did, but the linked question did not have a solution after walking through all the steps to fix it.

I've never been in this situation before, so, as I thought this was not correct, I flagged the question for moderator review with the statement:

I don't believe this should be closed as a duplicate, as the attached question may mention the error in this post, but it does not offer a solution. None of the answers on the page for this specific error match this scenario.

The next day I went to flag something and I got a message that says:

Attention: some of your recent flags have been declined - please review them before flagging this post!

So I checked my flags, and under the flag that I posted, it says

flags should only be used to make moderators aware of content that requires their intervention


First of all I want to apologize if this is not the correct use of the flag, but I had 2 specific questions about it.

  1. What is the appropriate course of action in this situation?
  2. What are some examples of when using this flag is appropriate?
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    take a step back and consider the possibility that you are incorrect. If you then still feel you aren't, cast your reopen vote if you have that privilege, or move on.
    – Kevin B
    Commented Aug 11, 2017 at 18:17
  • @KevinB Incorrect about what? That it isn't a duplicate? Commented Aug 11, 2017 at 18:17
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    It's usually the OP of the post that needs to take action if they disagree with their question being put on hold/closed. In the case of being flagged as a duplicate, they need to edit their post to demonstrate why the duplicate does not solve their issue.
    – BSMP
    Commented Aug 11, 2017 at 18:17
  • @BSMP But the post has enough information, because walking through the solutions on the linked answer didn't solve the issue. The linked answer contains answers like "this may be the issue, try this", but none of them relate to the question. Commented Aug 11, 2017 at 18:18
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    An example of a correct use of a moderator intervention flag would be flagging a post for plagiarism or flagging a post that has suspicious voting activity. Basically, flag for moderator attention for situations the community can't handle themselves.
    – BSMP
    Commented Aug 11, 2017 at 18:19
  • walking through the solutions on the linked answer didn't solve the issue - Then the OP should edit that information into their question. If it's true then that should get their question re-opened when it goes into the re-open queue. Let the OP make this change themselves though; they only get one shot at getting their question re-opened so let them improve it as much as possible in one edit.
    – BSMP
    Commented Aug 11, 2017 at 18:21
  • @BSMP Thank you, that clears up my 2nd question. I still disagree that it should have ever been closed though, the only answer on the page that could even be the answer, states that it may just be a missing semi-colon in the statement before the error, which takes a few seconds to see that answer is not relevant to the question. Commented Aug 11, 2017 at 18:22
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    Note that they shouldn't edit the post to say that the duplicate post doesn't answer their question, rather, they should edit the post to describe how it fails to answer the question; explaining how they applied the solution to their situation (or why they couldn't), what happened as a result, and how that failed to work.
    – Servy
    Commented Aug 11, 2017 at 18:22
  • @Servy that's my point, there isn't a solution on the page for the question, all of the solutions are completely irrelevant to the code in the question that was marked as a duplicate. The OP of the post even stated they had read that same answer the day prior before making his question, but none of the solutions on the page were relevant to his code Commented Aug 11, 2017 at 18:23
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    @GrumpyCrouton And again, just stating that they're irrelevant isn't helpful. One needs to explain how they fail to solve the problem. The question itself is also really bad, just dumping a ton of code and saying it doesn't compile. Personally I'd just rather see it closed for not properly describing the problem than as a duplicate.
    – Servy
    Commented Aug 11, 2017 at 18:26
  • The error is a syntax/copy-paste error. an answer to this question won't be useful to other users who may end up with the same error message (you can find dozens of instances of people asking this very same question with various different ways of it occurring, all of which are syntax errors or invis characters.) Pointing the user to a question that explains how to debug syntax errors is far more useful than pointing them to a question with the same error message but potentially a different problem.
    – Kevin B
    Commented Aug 11, 2017 at 18:28
  • @Servy I believe that the question is full, that is all of the relevant code, and there are no syntax issues that I could find, and he tried to find before posting his question. He was at a loss, and even with all the code there I am at a loss too. You can tell within seconds of looking at the linked answer that it isn't relevant, as there are 4 answers as part of the post. 1 is saying to check for a semicolon on the line before the error, which is a syntax error and would be closed anyways, but that's not the issue. The other 3 answers are irrelevant because OP doesn't use classes ... Commented Aug 11, 2017 at 18:30
  • @Servy reserved words, OR "Statements in expression context" Commented Aug 11, 2017 at 18:30
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    @GrumpyCrouton It's not unrelated. The question asked how to fix syntax errors, it got linked to a question on how to fix syntax errors. If the question asks a better question, it can get a better answer.
    – Servy
    Commented Aug 11, 2017 at 18:35
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    Moderator flags should not be used to get a question re-opened. That's something for the community to handle. We are not going to unilaterally overrule votes cast by the community unless it's something really egregious. This wasn't. I even asked a PHP expert to take a look at it before I dismissed your flag, just to make sure I wasn't missing anything, since I don't know PHP. I wasn't. They thought the closure was valid. As for what you should do, see: meta.stackoverflow.com/q/252252, meta.stackoverflow.com/q/253521, meta.stackexchange.com/q/194476, among others.
    – Cody Gray Mod
    Commented Aug 11, 2017 at 18:40

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What is the appropriate course of action in this situation?

Make a post here (on Meta), tag it with , and have a very strong argument as to why the post should be reopened at all. This current question lacks that argument, so I'm going to lean on the expertise of the gold badge holder who deemed it to be a dupe.

What are some examples of when using this flag is appropriate?

Only flag the moderators when there is something that the community can't handle. We can handle reopening things just fine, and we don't need their help with that. Where we would need their help would be if you suspect that there's some foul play going on with the accounts (i.e. sockpuppets boosting one another), or if the post had contained sensitive credentials (a flag would at most get it to the people that could remove it from history).

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