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Today I got the Unsung Hero badge. First, I thought: "Progress! Second gold badge!". Then I understood that it is given for 10 zero voted accepted answers.

Should one avoid getting this badge? Is it shameful?

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    Perusing some of your zero score accepted answers they probably need a lot more detail and explanation to get upvotes. I don't know if people in the JavaScript tag are less likely to upvote anyway though. Commented May 25, 2014 at 20:24
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    Look up the definition of "unsung hero".
    – BoltClock Mod
    Commented May 26, 2014 at 1:33
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    It's not shameful. But anyway badges are also not so important. Commented May 26, 2014 at 8:09
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    "Does getting “Unsung Hero” gold badge means that you post low quality answers?" Answer: No (hence the down-vote). I have quite a few and I put it down to the fact that the tag I answer in most isn't that popular (asp-classic) or has a lot of new members who don't understand accepting answers and the whole scoring mechanic. That doesn't make my answers in anyway lacking.
    – user692942
    Commented May 26, 2014 at 12:17
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    Side question: can you lose this badge if your ratios change? I'm guessing not... Commented May 27, 2014 at 9:38
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    @Duncan No. And they forgot to add "accepted" in description, as I understood: "Zero score accepted answers: more than 10 and 25% of total accepted". Now, of all accepted (32 - not al lot of course), I have 9 zero voted - after I got this badge 2 answers were already up voted, 'cause I had 11 zero voted accepted.
    – nicael
    Commented May 27, 2014 at 9:39
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    @nicael Looks like I'm not the only confused one! meta.stackexchange.com/questions/57244/unsung-hero-requirement. And yes, you are quite right on the description. Commented May 27, 2014 at 9:50
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    Why do you keep making your title less and less descriptive? What's wrong with the original title? This is not the first time I've seen you make a series of questionable edits on your posts...
    – BoltClock Mod
    Commented May 27, 2014 at 10:08
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    @BoltClock You'll kill me some day. First title was better? This will definitely receive more attention.
    – nicael
    Commented May 27, 2014 at 10:12
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    The meaning of of an unsung hero is that a person's good deeds or abilities have gone unrecognized or haven't received adequate praise
    – CoderDojo
    Commented May 27, 2014 at 10:31
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    "One who does great deeds but receives little or no recognition for them." - Unsung Hero
    – DJ22T
    Commented May 27, 2014 at 13:34
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    One thing I believe I am talented in is understanding a questioner who doesn't know how to express themselves in a question, and ends up asking for the wrong thing. So I sometimes see a situation where nobody has understood what the questioner wanted, but lots of people have posted elaborate, clever answers that win lots of upvotes. Meanwhile, I post an answer which is what the OP wanted, but which doesn't win the popularity contest. Tell me - is this a good talent for me to have, or a bad one? Commented May 29, 2014 at 6:06
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    @DavidWallace Definetly good.
    – nicael
    Commented May 29, 2014 at 10:15
  • It's really difficult to get those green check marks and at the same time a score of 0 on a highly-trafficked question no matter what quality you post at. If your quality is low, then you're less likely to get the check. if the quality is high, than you get a score of more than 0 Commented May 30, 2014 at 3:23

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If you spend your time answering questions in low traffic tags from 1-rep users (who can't upvote) it is entirely possible to have good answers that do not get any upvotes. That is the purpose of the badge - to offer some reward for users who spend a lot of time in low traffic tags.

However, if you spend a lot of time in high traffic tags and you don't get a lot of up votes, then maybe you do need to consider how you answer questions.

In the end, there is nothing specifically negative about the badge. It can be a badge of honor, but it might be worth looking through your answers to see why you aren't getting up votes.

  • Are you active in tags where views from users with accounts are low, making votes hard to come by.
  • Is the community of your preferred tags very stingy with votes?
  • Do you spend virtually all your time answering basic questions from low rep users?

Once you figure that out, you can decide if you want to address it by trying improve your old answers or improve your future answers.

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    Incidently I also got my first gold badge 'Unsung Hero' today, When I verify, most of question asked by guys having higher reputation, still they do not upvote my asnwers :). Commented May 26, 2014 at 6:02
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    "answering basic questions from low rep users" actually this is a very good strategy to gather upvotes on StackOverflow, they will get a lot of views in the first few minutes, because they are easy to answer. But you have to be "first!!11!". Commented May 26, 2014 at 7:08
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    @Chris - When doing this please make sure it is a valid/good quality question first.
    – Emond
    Commented May 26, 2014 at 7:26
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    I posted a question about a "controversial" badge a while ago. I removed it because the question was heavily downvoted. I also have the "Unsung Hero" badge. I give many correct, but unpopular answers. People post a "stupid" question; I answer "it's not possible and here's why." The question gets accepted (because i'm right), but nobody likes it, so nobody upvotes it (on the contrary: sometimes I'm even downvoted). In the end, I'm starting to be reluctant to "bring the bad news", especially after the comments I got on my "controversial" badge question. Commented May 26, 2014 at 7:32
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    I believe certain communities lack the courtesy of up-voting(for eg: coffee machine shuts down for all PHP developers around the world). May be there should a most 'non-voted' badge for communities as well. A bit negative but it would give encouraging results Commented May 26, 2014 at 7:32
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    There's no fundamental difference between answering questions in a low traffic tag and answering questions in a high traffic tag with answers that only help a limited number of people. In either case, you're only helping a limited number of people.
    – Warren Dew
    Commented May 26, 2014 at 15:57
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    @Chris It's only a good strategy for gaining rep if the questions from low rep users are in tags that get a lot of traffic. If it's a low-traffic tag, it can remain as a low-vote answer for a long time. Commented May 29, 2014 at 19:09
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I thought to comment, but need 50+ reputation to do it. But I couldn't resist sharing a link from Rediff.com esp. when I didn't know much about Unsung Hero.

An Unsung hero is one who executes and implements an action but doesn't get due credit or acknowledgment for his actions. An unsung hero is one who acts like a messiah or a manna from heaven who has talent but doesn't get a platform to show case it. He can either be a simple rural boy or an aspiring actor with a penchant for acting. Most of the Unsung heroes are philanthropists and Samaritans who do a lot of benevolent deeds.

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    Valid answer. Why to comment?
    – nicael
    Commented May 26, 2014 at 7:27
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    It was just a definition of Unsung Hero. Didn't knew whether SO would entertain it :).
    – user2511749
    Commented May 26, 2014 at 7:29
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    One of the comments on that page cracked me up
    – asprin
    Commented May 27, 2014 at 9:16
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    "The HERO who doesnt sings songs"
    – SysDragon
    Commented May 27, 2014 at 13:44
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    Now you've got enough rep to comment :)
    – striking
    Commented May 30, 2014 at 12:35
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    Notice, that you got it (reputation) not because of this answer, but because of your questions on the main site. Questions and answers there (on Meta Stack Overflow) don't affect your reputation - it is the same as on the main site (Stack Overflow).
    – nicael
    Commented Jun 2, 2014 at 8:36
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The "unsung hero" badge means that you have provided a number of answers that have helped the newbie poster of the question but have not helped other people, whether because the question is in an area that few people are interested in, or because the question is very specific to the original poster's situation. You are a hero because you are helping people; you are unsung because people other than those you helped do not recognize your heroism.

There is plenty of room on Stack Overflow for answers that help only the asker of the question. If someone has spent days wrestling with a bug and can't find it, posting the relevant code here in the hopes that someone with a fresh set of eyes can find it is perfectly legitimate. Similarly with someone posting a question on such an obscure topic that no one else is ever likely to be in the same situation. No one should feel obligated to answer such questions, but no one should feel bad about answering them either.

Personally, "Unsung Hero" is one of the badges I respect the most. It means the person is interested in actually helping people, even if the reputation rewards are minimal.

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    I just got the tenacious silver badge, which is the lesser version of unsung hero. I answer in low volume tags, and your answer makes me feel good about it. Commented May 26, 2014 at 16:23
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    Your take on Unsung Hero pretty much sums up why I started answering questions on SO. I like answering questions, helping people, and it also improves myself as I get to solve problems daily. Not to mention that it's the only gold I have so far. Thanks for this!
    – rayryeng
    Commented May 28, 2014 at 14:45
  • Lack of upvotes does not merely mean that you haven't helped other people, it means that no one who saw your answer thought positively of it.
    – Ben Voigt
    Commented May 29, 2014 at 18:51
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Those badges are like military medals.. only you (and people who research your endeavors) know if you deserve the badge.

Some people 'earn' them by posting a truckload of below mediocre answers. (just like robo-reviewers who are in it only for the badge).

The more intended 'use' of the Unsung Hero badge is 3-fold:
rewarding and motivating experts

  • to (continue) to answer 'obscure'/'non-mainstream'/'interesting'/'hard' questions/tags
  • who help the new users on the site
  • that themselves are new users (low rep.) to (continue) their work in the above 2 categories.
    A way to help those users over the first gap (of 'disappointment') after (say for example) posting 50 quality answers but hardly getting any rep from it (compared to what you would have gotten >3 years ago), by saying: 'your work didn't go un-noticed, we do appreciate it'.

I earned the badge whilst being in the third category in the javascript area, where it is hard to earn rep these day's (especially given the audience, fastest-gun-'problem' and ever-growing truckload of library-related questions). And it did help me over the gap and I'm proud of (actually earning) it.

I remember (some) similar questions/answers on meta.stackexchange.com from a couple of years ago:

Quote from this answer:

It's to reward those people who's answers are accepted but not upvoted. This can be for many reasons - one being that new users can post questions and accept answers, but can't up-vote until they get 15 rep, another being where there are few users who are knowledgeable in a tag.

So it's a way of rewarding those people who help the new users to the site.

And this answer:

The concept here is to give these "poor users" that participate in tags that are not wildly followed or upvoted or happen to answer less popular questions some extra incentive to keep on making Stack Overflow better.

and:

its about giving these users that contribute in a less popular way an incentive to keep contributing

In conclusion, assuming you rightfully earned the Unsung Hero badge, then wear it with pride!

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No, one should not avoid getting this badge, even more, you cannot if you are dealing with one-rep people and no high-reps to repeatedly upvote your answers. Just take it and don't be shy.

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    Right. Another point. Sometimes you get these if you and the OP are the only person who even understand what the hell the topic is about. ie, you sometimes get one for very obscure, highly technical answers.
    – Fattie
    Commented Jun 1, 2014 at 16:01
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How very dare you sir, that was my first gold badge! grin

Based on my own barely acknowledged answers, I'd say they were low value questions. I've lost count of the questions I've answered with titles like "How do I do this", or "I want the sum of my oojahs to include the one above".

I see it, answer it correctly (ish). The OP thinks cheers, tries it, tells me I've spelled one of their column names wrong, I fix that, they try again, it works, they tick it. I get a wee message and then some time later a gold badge which I didn't even know existed until it magically appeared against my name.

So I'd say a good deal of it is down to low value questions. That's both in terms of applicability unless you are capable of adapting an answer to a similar question and it's tagged and titled well enough to actually be found.

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When I actively joined the community in the past, many of my accepted answers initially were zero score and I earned the "unsung hero" badge after some time. However over time many of these answers have been upvoted multiple times, probably by other readers.

Hence I think the badge may reflect the new, active member with many answers too recent to be upvoted. I do not this it could be low quality answers as they are now upvoted as any others.

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It depends on what is your goal on this site.
If whatever "progress" - then no doubt go for this badge. Make a pride of it and boast to your friends.

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    I assume that even your sight attracts downvotes as many out there feel a void looking at your alias. Consider changing it; it might pacify many (maybe they'll feel the void less often).
    – devnull
    Commented May 27, 2014 at 14:38
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    Huh? Why should I be concerned in pacifying anyone? You've mistaken me with The Pope I guess. Commented May 27, 2014 at 15:13

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