Timeline for Forced to lie in order to get my email server configuration question answered: is there any better approach?
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Feb 14, 2023 at 16:27 | history | edited | scohe001 | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
Escaped the left arm so the shrug could live a happy life
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Feb 10, 2023 at 18:22 | comment | added | AJP | Thank you @SecurityHound , I tried to respond constructively to what I thought Rob was confused about (I didn't even think about flagging it but I may next time) but the question was then immediately closed so I made the misassumption it was due to unresolved confusion relating to the question & context. It has become abundantly clear that this may be partially true but the main problem was that my previous perspective prevented me from appreciating that & why the question was not on topic. Thank you for your comment, I appreciate it. | |
Feb 10, 2023 at 12:13 | history | edited | Peter Mortensen | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
Active reading [<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sentence_clause_structure#Run-on_sentences> <https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/off-topic#Adjective> <https://meta.stackexchange.com/legal/trademark-guidance> (the last section)].
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Feb 10, 2023 at 10:31 | comment | added | Security Hound | @AJP - “Hover over the email tag and read that popup. Then delete this.”, is a rude comment and should have been flagged. However, the close reason was self-explanatory, commentary to explain the closure wasn’t necessary | |
Feb 10, 2023 at 8:21 | comment | added | AJP | @CodyGray yes I thought it was closed due to Rob misunderstanding the (irrelevant) context of the question as being about "why the emails you send are marked as spam". The "configuration of mail servers belong on Server Fault" didn't land for me as I didn't view this as configuring but as what's a valid writing of a mail server. I think what I needed was a "Thanks but post this on ServerFault and drop the irrelevant context" closed. I'm going to stop replying now to save people's time. I think we've worked this to death! Thanks for all your inputs. | |
Feb 10, 2023 at 8:13 | vote | accept | AJP | ||
Feb 10, 2023 at 8:05 | comment | added | Cody Gray Mod | What was confusing about Rob's comment? It read, "Hover over the email tag and read that popup. Then delete this." There was no misunderstanding of the question. There was no "incorrect interpretation of the question's context". The question's context was correctly interpreted as not being about programming, and so the question was closed. The closure most certainly was not "without explanation", as you claim; the explanation was provided in a big blue banner box at the top of the question! | |
Feb 10, 2023 at 7:48 | comment | added | AJP | @KarlKnechtel yes you're correct. My initial confusion was my conversation with "Rob" underneath the first question on Stack Overflow where he misunderstood the question based on the context. The conversation wasn't resolved, the question was just closed without explanation. I wrongly assumed it was closed because of the incorrect interpretation of the question's context. I now see that the question was more suitable for Server Fault, and it would be interesting to know (but too late to know) if it would have been accepted in its original form. | |
Feb 10, 2023 at 0:31 | answer | added | Karl Knechtel | timeline score: 19 | |
Feb 10, 2023 at 0:04 | comment | added | Karl Knechtel | "As you can see from the comments under the Stack Overflow question I tried to explain why this was a valid question but it was then immediately closed ¯_(ツ)_/¯ despite being quickly answered on Server Fault." In your own words, why do you think Stack Overflow and Server Fault both separately exist, while being run by the same people? Would you consider that, at least in principle, there are some questions that are supposed to be asked in one place, and not the other? Maybe your question might have been one of them? Maybe "lying" has nothing to do with it? | |
Feb 9, 2023 at 23:41 | comment | added | Dharman Mod | It doesn't matter if you are really having this issue or not. It doesn't even matter if you already know the answer to it. If you think the question will be useful to others post it. It can be a completely made up scenario. | |
Feb 9, 2023 at 23:29 | comment | added | AJP | Yep, thanks @KevinB. Now I know more, it's a reasonable assumption his server code doesn't have a bug and it's a higher level problem to do with his server's IP address. | |
Feb 9, 2023 at 23:25 | comment | added | Kevin B | I mean, in a roundabout way it's programming... in that the server handling these requests surely relied on programming at some point to be what they are... but from our perspective it's server administration, as we're not looking at how these services were coded, rather, we're looking at how they're configured. There's no programming involved in solving the problem. | |
Feb 9, 2023 at 23:22 | comment | added | Kevin B | Yea, these communities just aren't as connected as they might seem to be. I have no idea what is and isn't on topic on server fault, i spend my time here instead | |
Feb 9, 2023 at 23:20 | comment | added | AJP | @KevinB ok so maybe I could have reposted it to serverfault as it was and received an answer. I had assumed it was closed because of the comment where a user "Rob" had misunderstood the question. And the way I view it it very much is about programming. My friend is staring at their email logs and seeing 250 responses coming from my mail server, but my mail server (google) isn't showing anything to me. | |
Feb 9, 2023 at 23:19 | history | edited | Cody GrayMod | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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Feb 9, 2023 at 23:18 | history | edited | Thom A | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
Stack Overflow, Server Fault
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Feb 9, 2023 at 23:12 | history | edited | Cody GrayMod |
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Feb 9, 2023 at 23:12 | answer | added | Cody GrayMod | timeline score: 29 | |
Feb 9, 2023 at 23:11 | comment | added | Anon Coward | Also, find me a SMTP server (or, well, any server for that matter) that implements a RFC spec 100% to code, and I'll show you a Unicorn. | |
Feb 9, 2023 at 23:07 | comment | added | Kevin B | I mean, it's not a programming question. I don't understand the confusion as to why it isn't on topic here, we also don't accept cooking questions. the line's gotta be drawn somewhere | |
Feb 9, 2023 at 23:06 | history | asked | AJP | CC BY-SA 4.0 |