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The situation

It’s a well-known fact that closed questions tend to stay closed. This makes sense: most questions are closed for a good reason.

But sometimes the asker puts in the work, edits the question, fixes the issues, and wants it reopened. And sometimes the question actually gets reopened!

But let’s be honest: (except for duplicates) reopening happens rarely, because the question flies under the radar. Yes, editing bumps it to the home page. But it has that big ugly mark next to it: “[closed]”. And thus most people will (with good reason) ignore it entirely (personally I almost never click on “[closed]” questions). And the question stays closed.

Furthermore, the reopen queue is completely ineffective in practice; in my experience, it hasn’t led to a single question being reopened (see below). Part of the reason may be that questions are only put into this queue once, even when they get edited repeatedly (and the first edit is often a minor cosmetic change by somebody other than the author, and wouldn’t warrant reopening).

I’ve started following questions that I personally voted to close, but where I see potential for the OP to improve it to justify reopening. And this does happen regularly, and I get notified, and I vote to reopen. And then … nothing. Not a single such questions has been reopened, despite all issues in the comments being addressed (I’m excluding duplicates here: questions incorrectly closed as duplicates get reopened fairly frequently).

The other close-voters don’t turn up. I don’t blame them, there’s thankfully no compulsion to subscribe to/follow questions you voted to close. But since nobody else bothers looking at the question, it doesn’t get the second chance it deserves, and this is immensely frustrating, and breaks the very explicit promise to newcomers that “your question was closed for reason X. Amend the question to get it reopened.”

The proposal

There needs to be some kind of mechanism to prevent this. Flagging for moderator attention is (IMHO) not the right mechanism, since it puts the onus on the moderators. I’d love a way to incentivise others to check out edited questions to appraise their reopen-worthiness. Neither bumping to the homepage nor the review queue currently do this.

Here’s what I’m proposing: Ideally, the people who closed the question should be reminded to take a look after the question was edited by the original author, whether they are following the question or not. I think this might be an unpopular proposal but I don’t believe it’s too much to ask of close-voters. At the very least this should be trialled to see whether it actually leads to a lot of notification spam.

(I currently @-mention the other close-voters in comments but this requires goodwill on the part of the other close-voters (and gives them disproportionate power), as well as serendipity: nobody is always online and sees the flag in a reasonable time frame.)


(There are related discussions about this topic but (a) they are ancient (the most recent one is more than 2.5 years old), (b) they precede other recent change such as the “follow” function; they thus happened in a completely different context, (c) they aren’t a , and (d) there’s no resolution, not even an attempt at one. This still needs fixing.)

The situation

It’s a well-known fact that closed questions tend to stay closed. This makes sense: most questions are closed for a good reason.

But sometimes the asker puts in the work, edits the question, fixes the issues, and wants it reopened. And sometimes the question actually gets reopened!

But let’s be honest: reopening happens rarely, because the question flies under the radar. Yes, editing bumps it to the home page. But it has that big ugly mark next to it: “[closed]”. And thus most people will (with good reason) ignore it entirely (personally I almost never click on “[closed]” questions). And the question stays closed.

Furthermore, the reopen queue is completely ineffective in practice; in my experience, it hasn’t led to a single question being reopened (see below). Part of the reason may be that questions are only put into this queue once, even when they get edited repeatedly (and the first edit is often a minor cosmetic change by somebody other than the author, and wouldn’t warrant reopening).

I’ve started following questions that I personally voted to close, but where I see potential for the OP to improve it to justify reopening. And this does happen regularly, and I get notified, and I vote to reopen. And then … nothing. Not a single such questions has been reopened, despite all issues in the comments being addressed.

The other close-voters don’t turn up. I don’t blame them, there’s thankfully no compulsion to subscribe to/follow questions you voted to close. But since nobody else bothers looking at the question, it doesn’t get the second chance it deserves, and this is immensely frustrating, and breaks the very explicit promise to newcomers that “your question was closed for reason X. Amend the question to get it reopened.”

The proposal

There needs to be some kind of mechanism to prevent this. Flagging for moderator attention is (IMHO) not the right mechanism, since it puts the onus on the moderators. I’d love a way to incentivise others to check out edited questions to appraise their reopen-worthiness. Neither bumping to the homepage nor the review queue currently do this.

Here’s what I’m proposing: Ideally, the people who closed the question should be reminded to take a look after the question was edited by the original author, whether they are following the question or not. I think this might be an unpopular proposal but I don’t believe it’s too much to ask of close-voters. At the very least this should be trialled to see whether it actually leads to a lot of notification spam.

(I currently @-mention the other close-voters in comments but this requires goodwill on the part of the other close-voters (and gives them disproportionate power), as well as serendipity: nobody is always online and sees the flag in a reasonable time frame.)


(There are related discussions about this topic but (a) they are ancient (the most recent one is more than 2.5 years old), (b) they precede other recent change such as the “follow” function; they thus happened in a completely different context, (c) they aren’t a , and (d) there’s no resolution, not even an attempt at one. This still needs fixing.)

The situation

It’s a well-known fact that closed questions tend to stay closed. This makes sense: most questions are closed for a good reason.

But sometimes the asker puts in the work, edits the question, fixes the issues, and wants it reopened. And sometimes the question actually gets reopened!

But let’s be honest: (except for duplicates) reopening happens rarely, because the question flies under the radar. Yes, editing bumps it to the home page. But it has that big ugly mark next to it: “[closed]”. And thus most people will (with good reason) ignore it entirely (personally I almost never click on “[closed]” questions). And the question stays closed.

Furthermore, the reopen queue is completely ineffective in practice; in my experience, it hasn’t led to a single question being reopened (see below). Part of the reason may be that questions are only put into this queue once, even when they get edited repeatedly (and the first edit is often a minor cosmetic change by somebody other than the author, and wouldn’t warrant reopening).

I’ve started following questions that I personally voted to close, but where I see potential for the OP to improve it to justify reopening. And this does happen regularly, and I get notified, and I vote to reopen. And then … nothing. Not a single such questions has been reopened, despite all issues in the comments being addressed (I’m excluding duplicates here: questions incorrectly closed as duplicates get reopened fairly frequently).

The other close-voters don’t turn up. I don’t blame them, there’s thankfully no compulsion to subscribe to/follow questions you voted to close. But since nobody else bothers looking at the question, it doesn’t get the second chance it deserves, and this is immensely frustrating, and breaks the very explicit promise to newcomers that “your question was closed for reason X. Amend the question to get it reopened.”

The proposal

There needs to be some kind of mechanism to prevent this. Flagging for moderator attention is (IMHO) not the right mechanism, since it puts the onus on the moderators. I’d love a way to incentivise others to check out edited questions to appraise their reopen-worthiness. Neither bumping to the homepage nor the review queue currently do this.

Here’s what I’m proposing: Ideally, the people who closed the question should be reminded to take a look after the question was edited by the original author, whether they are following the question or not. I think this might be an unpopular proposal but I don’t believe it’s too much to ask of close-voters. At the very least this should be trialled to see whether it actually leads to a lot of notification spam.

(I currently @-mention the other close-voters in comments but this requires goodwill on the part of the other close-voters (and gives them disproportionate power), as well as serendipity: nobody is always online and sees the flag in a reasonable time frame.)


(There are related discussions about this topic but (a) they are ancient (the most recent one is more than 2.5 years old), (b) they precede other recent change such as the “follow” function; they thus happened in a completely different context, (c) they aren’t a , and (d) there’s no resolution, not even an attempt at one. This still needs fixing.)

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The situation

It’s a well-known fact that closed questions tend to stay closed. This makes sense: most questions are closed for a good reason.

But sometimes the asker puts in the work, edits the question, fixes the issues, and wants it reopened. And sometimes the question actually gets reopened!

But let’s be honest: reopening happens rarely, because the question flies under the radar. Yes, editing bumps it to the home page. But it has that big ugly mark next to it: “[closed]”. And thus most people will (with good reason) ignore it entirely (personally I almost never click on “[closed]” questions). And the question stays closed.

Furthermore, the reopen queue is completely ineffective in practice; in my experience, it hasn’t led to a single question being reopened (see below). Part of the reason may be that questions are only put into this queue once, even when they get edited repeatedly (and the first edit is often a minor cosmetic change by somebody other than the author, and wouldn’t warrant reopening).

I’ve started following questions that I personally voted to close, but where I see potential for the OP to improve it to justify reopening. And this does happen regularly, and I get notified, and I vote to reopen. And then … nothing. Not a single such questions has been reopened, despite all issues in the comments being addressed.

The other close-voters don’t turn up. I don’t blame them, there’s thankfully no compulsion to subscribe to/follow questions you voted to close. But since nobody else bothers looking at the question, it doesn’t get the second chance it deserves, and this is immensely frustrating, and breaks the very explicit promise to newcomers that “your question was closed for reason X. Amend the question to get it reopened.”

The proposal

There needs to be some kind of mechanism to prevent this. Flagging for moderator attention is (IMHO) not the right mechanism, since it puts the onus on the moderators. I’d love a way to incentivise others to check out edited questions to appraise their reopen-worthiness. Neither bumping to the homepage nor the review queue currently do this.

Here’s what I’m proposing: Ideally, the the people who closed the question should be reminded to take a look after the question was edited by the original author, whether they are following the question or not. I think this might be an unpopular proposal but I don’t believe it’s too much to ask of close-voters. At the very least this should be trialled to see whether it actually leads to a lot of notification spam.

(I currently @-mention the other close-voters in comments but this requires goodwill on the part of the other close-voters (and gives them disproportionate power), as well as serendipity: nobody is always online and sees the flag in a reasonable time frame.)


(There are related discussions about this topic but (a) they are ancient (the most recent one is more than 2.5 years old), (b) they precede other recent change such as the “follow” function; they thus happened in a completely different context, (c) they aren’t a , and (d) there’s no resolution, not even an attempt at one. This still needs fixing.)

The situation

It’s a well-known fact that closed questions tend to stay closed. This makes sense: most questions are closed for a good reason.

But sometimes the asker puts in the work, edits the question, fixes the issues, and wants it reopened. And sometimes the question actually gets reopened!

But let’s be honest: reopening happens rarely, because the question flies under the radar. Yes, editing bumps it to the home page. But it has that big ugly mark next to it: “[closed]”. And thus most people will (with good reason) ignore it entirely (personally I almost never click on “[closed]” questions). And the question stays closed.

Furthermore, the reopen queue is completely ineffective in practice; in my experience, it hasn’t led to a single question being reopened (see below). Part of the reason may be that questions are only put into this queue once, even when they get edited repeatedly (and the first edit is often a minor cosmetic change by somebody other than the author, and wouldn’t warrant reopening).

I’ve started following questions that I personally voted to close, but where I see potential for the OP to improve it to justify reopening. And this does happen regularly, and I get notified, and I vote to reopen. And then … nothing. Not a single such questions has been reopened, despite all issues in the comments being addressed.

The other close-voters don’t turn up. I don’t blame them, there’s thankfully no compulsion to subscribe to/follow questions you voted to close. But since nobody else bothers looking at the question, it doesn’t get the second chance it deserves, and this is immensely frustrating, and breaks the very explicit promise to newcomers that “your question was closed for reason X. Amend the question to get it reopened.”

The proposal

There needs to be some kind of mechanism to prevent this. Flagging for moderator attention is (IMHO) not the right mechanism, since it puts the onus on the moderators. I’d love a way to incentivise others to check out edited questions to appraise their reopen-worthiness. Neither bumping to the homepage nor the review queue currently do this.

Here’s what I’m proposing: Ideally, the the people who closed the question should be reminded to take a look after the question was edited by the original author, whether they are following the question or not. I think this might be an unpopular proposal but I don’t believe it’s too much to ask of close-voters. At the very least this should be trialled to see whether it actually leads to a lot of notification spam.

(I currently @-mention the other close-voters in comments but this requires goodwill on the part of the other close-voters (and gives them disproportionate power), as well as serendipity: nobody is always online and sees the flag in a reasonable time frame.)


(There are related discussions about this topic but (a) they are ancient (the most recent one is more than 2.5 years old), (b) they precede other recent change such as the “follow” function; they thus happened in a completely different context, (c) they aren’t a , and (d) there’s no resolution, not even an attempt at one. This still needs fixing.)

The situation

It’s a well-known fact that closed questions tend to stay closed. This makes sense: most questions are closed for a good reason.

But sometimes the asker puts in the work, edits the question, fixes the issues, and wants it reopened. And sometimes the question actually gets reopened!

But let’s be honest: reopening happens rarely, because the question flies under the radar. Yes, editing bumps it to the home page. But it has that big ugly mark next to it: “[closed]”. And thus most people will (with good reason) ignore it entirely (personally I almost never click on “[closed]” questions). And the question stays closed.

Furthermore, the reopen queue is completely ineffective in practice; in my experience, it hasn’t led to a single question being reopened (see below). Part of the reason may be that questions are only put into this queue once, even when they get edited repeatedly (and the first edit is often a minor cosmetic change by somebody other than the author, and wouldn’t warrant reopening).

I’ve started following questions that I personally voted to close, but where I see potential for the OP to improve it to justify reopening. And this does happen regularly, and I get notified, and I vote to reopen. And then … nothing. Not a single such questions has been reopened, despite all issues in the comments being addressed.

The other close-voters don’t turn up. I don’t blame them, there’s thankfully no compulsion to subscribe to/follow questions you voted to close. But since nobody else bothers looking at the question, it doesn’t get the second chance it deserves, and this is immensely frustrating, and breaks the very explicit promise to newcomers that “your question was closed for reason X. Amend the question to get it reopened.”

The proposal

There needs to be some kind of mechanism to prevent this. Flagging for moderator attention is (IMHO) not the right mechanism, since it puts the onus on the moderators. I’d love a way to incentivise others to check out edited questions to appraise their reopen-worthiness. Neither bumping to the homepage nor the review queue currently do this.

Here’s what I’m proposing: Ideally, the people who closed the question should be reminded to take a look after the question was edited by the original author, whether they are following the question or not. I think this might be an unpopular proposal but I don’t believe it’s too much to ask of close-voters. At the very least this should be trialled to see whether it actually leads to a lot of notification spam.

(I currently @-mention the other close-voters in comments but this requires goodwill on the part of the other close-voters (and gives them disproportionate power), as well as serendipity: nobody is always online and sees the flag in a reasonable time frame.)


(There are related discussions about this topic but (a) they are ancient (the most recent one is more than 2.5 years old), (b) they precede other recent change such as the “follow” function; they thus happened in a completely different context, (c) they aren’t a , and (d) there’s no resolution, not even an attempt at one. This still needs fixing.)

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The situation

It’s a well-known fact that closed questions tend to stay closed. This makes sense: most questions are closed for a good reason.

But sometimes the asker puts in the work, edits the question, fixes the issues, and wants it reopened. And sometimes the question actually gets reopened!

But let’s be honest: reopening happens rarely, because the question flies under the radar. Yes, editing bumps it to the home page. But it has that big ugly mark next to it: “[closed]”. And thus most people will (with good reason) ignore it entirely (personally I almost never click on “[closed]” questions). And the question stays closed.

Furthermore, the reopen queue is completely ineffective in practice; in my experience, it hasn’t led to a single question being reopened (see below). Part of the reason may be that questions are only put into this queue once, even when they get edited repeatedly (and the first edit is often a minor cosmetic change by somebody other than the author, and wouldn’t warrant reopening).

I’ve started following questions that I personally voted to close, but where I see potential for the OP to improve it to justify reopening. And this does happen regularly, and I get notified, and I vote to reopen. And then …    nothing. Not a single such questions has been reopened, despite all issues in the comments being addressed.

The other close voters-voters don’t turn up. I don’t blame them;them, there’s thankfully no compulsion to subscribe to/follow questions you voted to close. But since nobody else bothers looking at the question, it doesn’t get the second chance it deserves, and this is immensely frustrating, and breaks the very explicit promise to newcomers that “your question was closed for reason X. Amend the question to get it reopened.”

The proposal

There needs to be some kind of mechanism to prevent this. Flagging for moderator attention is (IMHO) not the right mechanism, since it puts the onus on the moderators. I’d love a way to incentivise others to check out edited questions to appraise their reopen-worthiness. Neither bumping to the homepage nor the review queue currently do this.

Here’s what I’m proposing: Ideally, the the people who closed the question should be reminded to take a look after the question was edited by the original author, whether they are following the question or not. I think this might be an unpopular proposal, but I don’t believe it’s too much to ask of close-voters. At the very least this should be trialled to see whether it actually leads to a lot of notification spam.

(I currently @-mention the other close-voters in comments, but this requires goodwill on the part of the other close voters-voters (and gives them disproportionate power), as well as serendipity: nobody is always online and sees the flag in a reasonable time frame.)


(There are relatedrelated discussionsdiscussions about this topic, but (a) they are ancient (the most recent one is more than 2.5 years old), (b) they precede other recent change such as the “follow” function; they thus happened in a completely different context, (c) they aren’t a , and (d) there’s no resolution, not even an attempt at one. This still needs fixing.)

The situation

It’s a well-known fact that closed questions tend to stay closed. This makes sense: most questions are closed for a good reason.

But sometimes the asker puts in the work, edits the question, fixes the issues, and wants it reopened. And sometimes the question actually gets reopened!

But let’s be honest: reopening happens rarely, because the question flies under the radar. Yes, editing bumps it to the home page. But it has that big ugly mark next to it: “[closed]”. And thus most people will (with good reason) ignore it entirely (personally I almost never click on “[closed]” questions). And the question stays closed.

Furthermore, the reopen queue is completely ineffective in practice; in my experience, it hasn’t led to a single question being reopened (see below). Part of the reason may be that questions are only put into this queue once, even when they get edited repeatedly (and the first edit is often a minor cosmetic change by somebody other than the author, and wouldn’t warrant reopening).

I’ve started following questions that I personally voted to close, but where I see potential for the OP to improve it to justify reopening. And this does happen regularly, and I get notified, and I vote to reopen. And then …  nothing. Not a single such questions has been reopened, despite all issues in the comments being addressed.

The other close voters don’t turn up. I don’t blame them; there’s thankfully no compulsion to subscribe to/follow questions you voted to close. But since nobody else bothers looking at the question, it doesn’t get the second chance it deserves, and this is immensely frustrating, and breaks the very explicit promise to newcomers that “your question was closed for reason X. Amend the question to get it reopened.”

The proposal

There needs to be some kind of mechanism to prevent this. Flagging for moderator attention is (IMHO) not the right mechanism, since it puts the onus on the moderators. I’d love a way to incentivise others to check out edited questions to appraise their reopen-worthiness. Neither bumping to the homepage nor the review queue currently do this.

Here’s what I’m proposing: Ideally, the people who closed the question should be reminded to take a look after the question was edited by the original author, whether they are following the question or not. I think this might be an unpopular proposal, but I don’t believe it’s too much to ask of close-voters. At the very least this should be trialled to see whether it actually leads to a lot of notification spam.

(I currently @-mention the other close-voters in comments, but this requires goodwill on the part of the other close voters (and gives them disproportionate power), as well as serendipity: nobody is always online and sees the flag in a reasonable time frame.)


(There are related discussions about this topic, but (a) they are ancient (the most recent one is more than 2.5 years old), (b) they precede other recent change such as the “follow” function; they thus happened in a completely different context, (c) they aren’t a , and (d) there’s no resolution, not even an attempt at one. This still needs fixing.)

The situation

It’s a well-known fact that closed questions tend to stay closed. This makes sense: most questions are closed for a good reason.

But sometimes the asker puts in the work, edits the question, fixes the issues, and wants it reopened. And sometimes the question actually gets reopened!

But let’s be honest: reopening happens rarely, because the question flies under the radar. Yes, editing bumps it to the home page. But it has that big ugly mark next to it: “[closed]”. And thus most people will (with good reason) ignore it entirely (personally I almost never click on “[closed]” questions). And the question stays closed.

Furthermore, the reopen queue is completely ineffective in practice; in my experience, it hasn’t led to a single question being reopened (see below). Part of the reason may be that questions are only put into this queue once, even when they get edited repeatedly (and the first edit is often a minor cosmetic change by somebody other than the author, and wouldn’t warrant reopening).

I’ve started following questions that I personally voted to close, but where I see potential for the OP to improve it to justify reopening. And this does happen regularly, and I get notified, and I vote to reopen. And then …  nothing. Not a single such questions has been reopened, despite all issues in the comments being addressed.

The other close-voters don’t turn up. I don’t blame them, there’s thankfully no compulsion to subscribe to/follow questions you voted to close. But since nobody else bothers looking at the question, it doesn’t get the second chance it deserves, and this is immensely frustrating, and breaks the very explicit promise to newcomers that “your question was closed for reason X. Amend the question to get it reopened.”

The proposal

There needs to be some kind of mechanism to prevent this. Flagging for moderator attention is (IMHO) not the right mechanism, since it puts the onus on the moderators. I’d love a way to incentivise others to check out edited questions to appraise their reopen-worthiness. Neither bumping to the homepage nor the review queue currently do this.

Here’s what I’m proposing: Ideally, the the people who closed the question should be reminded to take a look after the question was edited by the original author, whether they are following the question or not. I think this might be an unpopular proposal but I don’t believe it’s too much to ask of close-voters. At the very least this should be trialled to see whether it actually leads to a lot of notification spam.

(I currently @-mention the other close-voters in comments but this requires goodwill on the part of the other close-voters (and gives them disproportionate power), as well as serendipity: nobody is always online and sees the flag in a reasonable time frame.)


(There are related discussions about this topic but (a) they are ancient (the most recent one is more than 2.5 years old), (b) they precede other recent change such as the “follow” function; they thus happened in a completely different context, (c) they aren’t a , and (d) there’s no resolution, not even an attempt at one. This still needs fixing.)

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