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###Meta is exhausting.

Meta is exhausting.

###Meta over-encourages punditry at the cost of constructive engagement.

Meta over-encourages punditry at the cost of constructive engagement.

###Meta doesn't convey presence.

Meta doesn't convey presence.

###Support is onerous. It doesn't have to be.

Support is onerous. It doesn't have to be.

###A thousand stings and a sudden 1:many dynamic

A thousand stings and a sudden 1:many dynamic

###Meta isn't engaging when we need it the most.

Meta isn't engaging when we need it the most.

###Consensus is totally broken.

Consensus is totally broken.

###In conclusion:

In conclusion:

###Meta is exhausting.

###Meta over-encourages punditry at the cost of constructive engagement.

###Meta doesn't convey presence.

###Support is onerous. It doesn't have to be.

###A thousand stings and a sudden 1:many dynamic

###Meta isn't engaging when we need it the most.

###Consensus is totally broken.

###In conclusion:

Meta is exhausting.

Meta over-encourages punditry at the cost of constructive engagement.

Meta doesn't convey presence.

Support is onerous. It doesn't have to be.

A thousand stings and a sudden 1:many dynamic

Meta isn't engaging when we need it the most.

Consensus is totally broken.

In conclusion:

Attempted to add some context, etc.
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While few actively talked about it like it was a deliberate construct, our early light-hearted shenanigans did provide some needed comic relief especially for people who were dealing with Jeff Atwood at the height of his conversational intensity as he was doing ten jobs at once. I just mentioned this in another unrelated answer on MSE.

To fix this, we're going to specspecify out a bug-tracker agnostic API that correlates meta post IDs to a back-end task (be it an Azure board, Trello card, FogBugz ticket, whatever) and relays information back to the front end meta post. This will also make sure updates get posted even if humans fail to do it. We have to keep meta for bugs, there's no realistic way of undoing how hundreds of sites rely on the per-site meta, which means we have to get creative in order to make that work for us somehow. I'll be posting a rough draft of a spec for this to MSE in the coming weeks.

TAGS. Oh, do I have some stories about TAGS and being only one of a few people trusted with the ad-hoc tools Jeff Atwood built to handle large-scale maintenance. That's why I really hated using them when I got pinged to look at a year-old burnination request with only five votes in something I knew absolutely nothing about.

If you're active in and someone says "Let's bar [foo]!" - you need to see a notification of some kind in the sidebar, or something. Meta isn't coupled with the main site very well, and all the glue is made out of people (the same stuff they use to frost Soylent GreenSoylent Green).

Folks are also, for reasons above, reticent to throw their hats into broader discussions about topic, elections (how many great modsmoderators aren't running because they don't want to deal with everything I'm describing in this post?). The impression that people see in the form of resentment of the day-to-day cruft is creating a broader perception that isn't true, but is difficult to disarm. Things look hostile and intense and therefore so do we, but we're not. Well, not all the time, anyway. We're just really passionate about this thing we've given over a decade to supporting (I'm just lucky enough to have gotten paid for some of that).

While few actively talked about it like it was a deliberate construct, our early light-hearted shenanigans did provide some needed comic relief especially for people who were dealing with Jeff at the height of his conversational intensity as he was doing ten jobs at once. I just mentioned this in another unrelated answer on MSE.

To fix this, we're going to spec out a bug-tracker agnostic API that correlates meta post IDs to a back-end task (be it an Azure board, Trello card, FogBugz ticket, whatever) and relays information back to the front end meta post. This will also make sure updates get posted even if humans fail to do it. We have to keep meta for bugs, there's no realistic way of undoing how hundreds of sites rely on the per-site meta, which means we have to get creative in order to make that work for us somehow. I'll be posting a rough draft of a spec for this to MSE in the coming weeks.

TAGS. Oh, do I have some stories about TAGS and being only one of a few people trusted with the ad-hoc tools Jeff built to handle large-scale maintenance. That's why I really hated using them when I got pinged to look at a year-old burnination request with only five votes in something I knew absolutely nothing about.

If you're active in and someone says "Let's bar [foo]!" - you need to see a notification of some kind in the sidebar, or something. Meta isn't coupled with the main site very well, all the glue is made out of people (the same stuff they use to frost Soylent Green).

Folks are also, for reasons above, reticent to throw their hats into broader discussions about topic, elections (how many great mods aren't running because they don't want to deal with everything I'm describing in this post?). The impression that people see in the form of resentment of the day-to-day cruft is creating a broader perception that isn't true, but is difficult to disarm. Things look hostile and intense and therefore so do we, but we're not. Well, not all the time, anyway. We're just really passionate about this thing we've given over a decade to supporting (I'm just lucky enough to have gotten paid for some of that).

While few actively talked about it like it was a deliberate construct, our early light-hearted shenanigans did provide some needed comic relief especially for people who were dealing with Jeff Atwood at the height of his conversational intensity as he was doing ten jobs at once. I just mentioned this in another unrelated answer on MSE.

To fix this, we're going to specify out a bug-tracker agnostic API that correlates meta post IDs to a back-end task (be it an Azure board, Trello card, FogBugz ticket, whatever) and relays information back to the front end meta post. This will also make sure updates get posted even if humans fail to do it. We have to keep meta for bugs, there's no realistic way of undoing how hundreds of sites rely on the per-site meta, which means we have to get creative in order to make that work for us somehow. I'll be posting a rough draft of a spec for this to MSE in the coming weeks.

TAGS. Oh, do I have some stories about TAGS and being only one of a few people trusted with the ad-hoc tools Jeff Atwood built to handle large-scale maintenance. That's why I really hated using them when I got pinged to look at a year-old burnination request with only five votes in something I knew absolutely nothing about.

If you're active in and someone says "Let's bar [foo]!" - you need to see a notification of some kind in the sidebar, or something. Meta isn't coupled with the main site very well, and all the glue is made out of people (the same stuff they use to frost Soylent Green).

Folks are also, for reasons above, reticent to throw their hats into broader discussions about topic, elections (how many great moderators aren't running because they don't want to deal with everything I'm describing in this post?). The impression that people see in the form of resentment of the day-to-day cruft is creating a broader perception that isn't true, but is difficult to disarm. Things look hostile and intense and therefore so do we, but we're not. Well, not all the time, anyway. We're just really passionate about this thing we've given over a decade to supporting (I'm just lucky enough to have gotten paid for some of that).

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TAGS. Oh, do I have some storesstories about TAGS and being only one of a few people trusted with the ad-hoc tools Jeff built to handle large-scale maintenance. That's why I really hated using them when I got pinged to look at a year-old burnination request with only five votes in something I knew absolutely nothing about.

TAGS. Oh do I have some stores about TAGS and being only one of a few people trusted with the ad-hoc tools Jeff built to handle large-scale maintenance. That's why I really hated using them when I got pinged to look at a year-old burnination request with only five votes in something I knew absolutely nothing about.

TAGS. Oh, do I have some stories about TAGS and being only one of a few people trusted with the ad-hoc tools Jeff built to handle large-scale maintenance. That's why I really hated using them when I got pinged to look at a year-old burnination request with only five votes in something I knew absolutely nothing about.

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