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May 23, 2018 at 3:21 comment added faintsignal "learning experience"
May 16, 2018 at 4:22 comment added user202729 Although I agree that asking "what do you understand" is not bad, ideally OP should already explain what exactly didn't they understand in the question itself, and questions without that should have been voted to close. Asking is only better (for the OP, assume they're trying to learn, and assume the other user doesn't end up being rude (although rude is perceived differently by different people)), not worse.
May 15, 2018 at 20:41 comment added cryophoenix funny thing was i was about to ask a question about keeping elements selected in HTML....
May 15, 2018 at 19:01 comment added Servy @Makoto But they were asking what their level of understanding of the topic was. You, by just assuming that they must not have a minimal level of understanding of the topic and dismissing them out of hand is being condescending. Someone else asking them how much of the topic they understand instead of making that assumption is not. Now I agree with you that someone who doesn't have a sufficient level of understanding of the topics at hand can't get an answer here, but that doesn't mean asking them how much they understand is being condescending.
May 15, 2018 at 19:00 comment added Kevin B I don't think there's a way to question someone's intelligence without someone somewhere seeing it as condescending.
May 15, 2018 at 18:59 comment added Taplar Yeah, it would have probably been more clear if it had been something like "Do you understand what ..... is doing" or "Can you tell me what you are trying to do with this statement?" I'd agree with that.
May 15, 2018 at 18:57 comment added Makoto @Servy: I kind of view a scenario in which the OP doesn't quite understand what they've gotten themselves into and has a question here that they can't help us answer like one who doesn't understand how to debug their code. We have to assume some minimal level of understanding here. There may be better ways to broach the question but the OP didn't really do a good job of that since, to a bystander like myself, it read like it was condescending.
May 15, 2018 at 18:55 comment added Servy @Makoto Sure, you can certainly argue that trying to learn what a question author does and doesn't understand, and then explaining what they don't understand is a waste of time. But that doesn't mean it's condescending, antagonistic, or otherwise inappropriate. That said, if you think figuring out what a question author doesn't understand and then explaining that thing is a waste of time...that's why we're all here, no?
May 15, 2018 at 18:53 comment added Makoto @Servy: It's also a grand waste of time. What could have been closed in maybe a half-hour tops has now inspired a Meta post and left an indelible impression on someone that we're "jerks". I mean, their post was bad, but now we have to live with that and the stigma.
May 15, 2018 at 18:52 comment added Servy Asking what the question author's current level of understanding of something is is not inappropriate. It's an entirely reasonable question, and it's not antagonizing or condescending. Being condescending would mean just assuming they don't know anything and explaining it as if they knew nothing about the topic at all. Asking what they do and don't understand, and then explaining what they don't understand, is literally the opposite of that.
May 15, 2018 at 18:51 comment added Makoto @Taplar: I get that it's hard to miss. I'm often with family members or friends that don't know a lot of what I do. They then have the power to turn that around on me. "Hey Makoto, do you know what THIS formula means for data analysts??" Over time, one learns that there's not just a slice of humble pie for them, but a few pies with their name on it.
May 15, 2018 at 18:50 history edited Makoto CC BY-SA 4.0
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May 15, 2018 at 18:50 comment added Taplar I guess that's on me. I didn't intended the first comment to be taken as condescending. It was intended as a "look at this. do you understand what this does?" thing. But I guess since others say that, I'm missing that.
May 15, 2018 at 18:47 history answered Makoto CC BY-SA 4.0