Timeline for "Prefer not to answer" in the Developer Survey Results 2018
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May 8, 2018 at 21:49 | comment | added | user9746775 | @Rich Don't blame me. I can work only with the data released by Stack Exchange Inc., and excluding "Prefer not to answer", labels come directly from the survey summary. In this spirit we could also note that we have Middle East, South Asia, East Asia and in middle... | |
May 8, 2018 at 20:08 | comment | added | Nathan Tuggy | @Geekmann: It's a discussion prompt, pointing out some issues with the site's survey and related posts, and implicitly asking for critiques or further work. | |
May 8, 2018 at 18:41 | comment | added | Geekmann | What is the question being asked? I only see statements in this post. | |
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May 8, 2018 at 14:12 | answer | added | jpmc26 | timeline score: 38 | |
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May 8, 2018 at 13:30 | comment | added | Dodge | @user9746775 Thank you for the warm response! Although sincere, I guess my comment would have been more appropriate in a post about solutions rather than analyses. | |
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May 8, 2018 at 13:01 | comment | added | Manfred Radlwimmer | I honestly don't see a realistic connection between the main user-base and the "toxic elitism" - I hate everyone writing bad questions equally. I have never seen a question that got down- or close-voted simply because of the author's race/gender or sexual orientation (not that it usually comes up anyway). I've read April Wensel's article you've linked ... Wow, what a waste of my time. Example: "I felt frustrated that Joel had not mentioned the survey or taken any responsibility for how the culture of his site excludes women and others." What a weird conclusion ... | |
May 8, 2018 at 12:56 | comment | added | duplode | Closing this as "unclear what you are asking" makes no sense. It is disappointing that this must be pointed out a second time. | |
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May 8, 2018 at 12:28 | comment | added | user9746775 | @NathanTuggy This was indeed my point. It is not a scientific observation, but based on quite a few years, of mostly remote mentoring, it is quite common for people to be more comfortable during first encounters, if I don't advertise my gender, ethnicity or age. | |
May 8, 2018 at 12:21 | comment | added | user9746775 | @W.Dodge My sincere apologies if I offended you. I thought my point is pretty clear, and doesn't imply anything more than I explicitly stated (not being native English speaker), but I posted a clarification. I hope you find it satisfying. | |
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May 8, 2018 at 8:10 | comment | added | duplode | [2/2] @NathanTuggy On a non-procedural note, there is a relevant discussion to be had about whether surveying and publishing demographics has more or less of a "chilling effect" than declining to look at demographics altogether, and about whether giving more emphasis to the share of "prefer not to answer" responses would have made any difference with respect to that. | |
May 8, 2018 at 8:09 | comment | added | duplode | [1/2] @NathanTuggy If that is the case, it would probably be better for that to be stated in the question in a more direct way. (Cf. for instance W.Dodge's comment above, which seems to point towards an unintended tangent.) | |
May 8, 2018 at 7:48 | comment | added | Nathan Tuggy | @duplode: It seemed pretty clear to me that the chilling effect is on prospective new minority users who look at the way the site presents its demographics and behaviors and decide that a group that officially says it's very largely composed of unwelcoming straight white men does not need or want them around. In other words, the very fact that SO is making a big deal about how much of a problem the site has can itself create something very similar to the patterns they're already concerned about, simply because people take the fuss at face value. | |
May 8, 2018 at 6:23 | comment | added | duplode | It is not clear what you mean with your next-to-last paragraph, that is, which kind of "chilling effect" you are talking about. Given that "not welcoming bunch of self-identified white straight man" is a very pungent turn of phrase, clarifying that paragraph is probably a good idea, lest we all get tangled in a discussion about something you aren't actually saying. | |
May 8, 2018 at 6:02 | comment | added | Dodge |
As one of the not welcoming bunch of self-identified white straight man you mention I sincerely ask, what can I do to encourage others to use this site?
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May 8, 2018 at 5:54 | answer | added | SergeyA | timeline score: 9 | |
May 8, 2018 at 2:45 | comment | added | Rich | Well, you just irritated a few of the Maori people of NZ: 'Native American, Pacific Islander and Indigenous Australian'. | |
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May 7, 2018 at 15:46 | comment | added | mega6382 | @SterlingArcher There was already a question like that, something like "Do you feel like part of the SO community" or something. | |
May 7, 2018 at 15:22 | comment | added | Sterling Archer | I suspect this years survey will include questions on the topic of "did you feel welcome here" with similar data outputs. | |
May 7, 2018 at 15:14 | comment | added | ndugger | I replied "prefer not to answer" to all of those types of questions, because the information is completely irrelevant to my career as an engineer. Who I sleep with, what I have between my legs, and how much pigment my skin has all have no business being discussed while I am perusing StackOverflow. I was not satisfied with how skewed and manipulated the poll results seemed to be. You can't talk about equality and then purposefully give out bad data to support your social ideology. | |
May 7, 2018 at 15:07 | comment | added | user9746775 | @Luuklag It was possible to mark multiple answers so percent values sum to more than 100% | |
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Use correct value for the reference count (survey allowed for multiple answer, while previous version of code assumed only one).
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May 7, 2018 at 14:16 | comment | added | Luuklag | @DenysSéguret Interesting enough there is also no choice to select that you identify as mix-raced (is that really a term one should be using?), or is that just not in the results shown by user9746775 | |
May 7, 2018 at 13:35 | comment | added | Denys Séguret | The ethnicity concept is a little strange for many people outside US. I don't have any well defined ethnicity, just like many of my friends or colleagues. When this concept isn't legally defined, people don't always try to decide what's their main origin. I chose "Prefer not to answer" because there wasn't any "I don't know" option. More globally many questions made me feel like I wasn't really the intended target as I wasn't American. | |
May 6, 2018 at 21:22 | comment | added | Kevin | Interestingly, there are ways to construct a study to reduce or eliminate this kind of response bias, but SO does not appear to have bothered with them (perhaps because it's harder to do with a computer than with a live interview). Regardless, I'm not clear on what the question is here. | |
May 6, 2018 at 18:48 | comment | added | Elin | Since you seem to have pulled the data into R already you could experiment with different imputation models and see what happens to the estimates. | |
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May 6, 2018 at 0:04 | comment | added | Marco13 | Speculations about whether the distributions in the "Prefer not to answer" parts are similar to or (to a statistically relevant degree) dissimilar from the answers that have been given will start in 3...2...1 .. (but seriously: You made an interesting point there, +1) | |
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