Timeline for Is this formatting overuse?
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Mar 10, 2023 at 12:45 | comment | added | Benice | I agree the formatting in the example is excessive, but the main reason it is difficult to read is because the grammar is poor. Also, Stack Overflow takes out line breaks that were put in for a reason. May times I have carefully formatted text with line breaks, only to have it all ruined when I press the submit button --And readers get everything jammed together as if no effort was made. | |
Jan 28, 2018 at 8:43 | comment | added | philipxy | @JeffC I'm with you, good writing only requires one font, and "detracts" quickly arises otherwise. | |
Jan 28, 2018 at 4:39 | comment | added | JeffC | @philipxy Yeah... and some people think that punctuation, grammar, capitalization are a waste of time... and some people disagree. I guess I'm probably in the 80%+ camp... if it's mostly OK, I don't bother editing. The goal of SO is create a wikipedia like resource of programming information. They care about grammar, punctuation, etc. so I think formatting that detracts from that should be fixed. Having said that, it's not for everyone... if it doesn't bother you, if it's bad enough someone else will fix it and you can spend your time fixing things that matter to you. | |
Jan 28, 2018 at 4:20 | comment | added | philipxy |
It can't matter THAT much--jeepers , Little Orphan Annie talked that way but ran for 85 years, and her eyes didn't even have pupils .
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Jan 28, 2018 at 1:05 | answer | added | jpmc26 | timeline score: 1 | |
Jan 27, 2018 at 18:26 | comment | added | JeffC | @Makyen I considered that but I felt like having practically every other word as a link to the same page/class was a bit too much and made the text harder to read. In the end, the text is the same and the link is there for people that want to read the docs. | |
Jan 27, 2018 at 15:07 | comment | added | Makyen Mod | @JeffC IMO, Your revision 6 edit went a little too far. If a user wants to have links to documentation within the text, that is reasonable and can be useful, even if they are linking directly to documentation for individual methods, when discussing them. However, if such links are used, they should only be for the first time a term is used, not each time. Further, mentioning, and linking to, ExpectedConditions would be better explained prior to, or simultaneously with, the methods, as it provides the conceptual framework in which those rest. | |
Jan 27, 2018 at 9:00 | comment | added | jpmc26 | I'd say the bolding is a bigger problem than the code blocks in your link, which generally encompass actual code elements. The repetition of long code elements so close together suggests maybe it could be reworded, but that's a phrasing problem, not a formatting one. "Java" and "greater than 0" probably shouldn't be code blocks, but these sorts of problems don't dominate the post, in my opinion. The actual code all over is the main problem with regards to the code formatting. | |
Jan 26, 2018 at 21:26 | comment | added | JeffC | @LordFarquaad Good catch... I didn't notice that at first. I fixed them. :) | |
Jan 26, 2018 at 20:42 | comment | added | Lord Farquaad |
I think the biggest assault on the eyes here is that his wait() methods in the first paragraph don't close their parenthesis.
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Jan 25, 2018 at 23:13 | history | edited | JeffC | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
Since my question, it's been edited heavily by users. Linking the original formatted post.
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Jan 25, 2018 at 22:34 | history | edited | Benjamin W. | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
Typo
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Jan 25, 2018 at 21:42 | answer | added | Bernhard Barker | timeline score: 9 | |
Jan 25, 2018 at 20:50 | comment | added | JeffC | @DonaldDuck I was looking at your profile, specifically the "don't be Jimmy" link. I love that. Visually appealing and gets the point across. I wonder if SO couldn't use something like that to address some bad habits new (and not new) users have around posting unformatted code, not posting an MCVE, and so on. I wonder how much more effective the new user training would be if it were formatted more like that. | |
Jan 25, 2018 at 20:16 | comment | added | Donald Duck | I commented on one of his posts asking him to stop and linking to this post and some other Meta posts explaining why you shouldn't abuse formatting. I also edited out the worst formatting abuse in that post, but there is definitely more to edit. | |
Jan 25, 2018 at 19:52 | comment | added | JeffC | @DonaldDuck Yeah I noticed that too... I considered pointing it out but I'm trying to avoid this looking like a personal attack and sticking to the parts that matter. If he wants to draw ASCII art on his profile page, I don't really care but if I and others have a hard time reading his questions/answers because of all the formatting, then I think that's something that needs to be addressed. | |
Jan 25, 2018 at 19:48 | comment | added | Donald Duck | I think that his profile page is a lot worse. About half of it is formatted as code although none of it is actual code. | |
Jan 25, 2018 at 18:42 | comment | added | Jongware | For reference: here we have a diligent editor who added correct highlighting and code ticks (and also improved the title) – only to have the OP manually change just about everything back. To add insult to injury: not even by "rolling back" but with manual editing. | |
Jan 25, 2018 at 18:41 | comment | added | JeffC | @MikeMcCaughan I don't disagree but the tags I'm talking about are very low volume so I would probably be the only one downvoting for format. I generally try to leave a comment when I downvote and I wanted to have something to back up my comments because this user doesn't take feedback well and likely wouldn't change because I mentioned it because I've mentioned it before. | |
Jan 25, 2018 at 18:21 | comment | added | Heretic Monkey | If you don't think the answer is clear or useful due to its formatting, downvote it. | |
Jan 25, 2018 at 18:12 | comment | added | user4639281 | This questions draws negative attention to a specific user and should be generalized to remove the reference to that user. Generalizing an example answer would have sufficed. | |
Jan 25, 2018 at 18:07 | comment | added | Erik A | @Bill Hmmm... Good idea *writes up a feature request for blinking text, and marquee support while they're at it, answers are better when they bounce | |
Jan 25, 2018 at 17:51 | comment | added | Bill the Lizard | @rene It's a good thing MarkDown doesn't support blinking text. | |
Jan 25, 2018 at 17:50 | history | edited | Bill the Lizard | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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Jan 25, 2018 at 17:48 | comment | added | rene | Maybe it is tolerable around Christmas time ... | |
Jan 25, 2018 at 17:47 | comment | added | Makoto |
Yes, well, right now I have a cold. Right now I'm on cold medicine. Right now seeing that bold text infuriates me because I know I just burned more energy than I needed to just to read it. I admit I'm also highly triggered any time anyone decides to write Java with backticks just for grins.
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Jan 25, 2018 at 17:46 | answer | added | Makoto | timeline score: 13 | |
Jan 25, 2018 at 17:46 | comment | added | JeffC | @Makoto I'm not sure that the target audience is users with a cold (lol) but I agree with you. Some of the words emphasized with code and bold tags for no apparent reason make me scratch my head. | |
Jan 25, 2018 at 17:45 | comment | added | Patrice | My poor eyes... this is definitely not helping the answerer get their point across any easier.... | |
Jan 25, 2018 at 17:45 | comment | added | Bill the Lizard | I do think it's excessive. That much emphasis scattered around a post makes it less readable. Unfortunately, if someone likes writing like that, it can be hard to convince them that they're doing more harm than good. | |
Jan 25, 2018 at 17:44 | comment | added | Makoto | In my view it's unnecessary. This compounds when you have a cold and are on cold medicine and suddenly, all of your focus is drawn to bold text for no value whatsoever. I mean c'mon. Why would you bold and code-format the word "Java"?? | |
Jan 25, 2018 at 17:43 | history | edited | JeffC | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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Jan 25, 2018 at 17:39 | history | asked | JeffC | CC BY-SA 3.0 |