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  • First of all, my plead to not post the specifics in in comments in order to avoid the exact context was edited out (not sure why).

  • I feel some members miss the difference between "insulting" or "offensive" and "harmful" or dangerous".

  • By using words like "totalitarian" and "oppressive regimes" (however might be true)- one DOES make a political statement, so it is hard understand how one, at the same time, is being apolitical.

  • I feel I must again sharpen the point of this not having to do with political "offensive" or "insulting". This has to do with the fact that one user, is deliberately, and with clear and stated intent, is trying to harm another group of users for own gain. Unfortunately, me and my employees are in the second group (of being harmed).

  • I do not think I need to get into the discussion of what is to be considered "dangerous" or "harmful" like some members suggested - and also I did not want to dramatize the original question - But me being deported , or being put on some black-list that would delay border crossings , or even being visited by some 19941984-like thought police thugs , or one of my employees being held for questioning - is "dangerous" or "harmful" enough. and yes - Even an internet outage is harmful - especially when it is being done deliberately by one member of the community towards the others.

  • I do not have nothing against the specific user, their political views or stands. As I recall, the user was even helpful to me numerous times (hence their appearance on my profile page).

  • PLEASE do not turn this into a one-specific-regime-political-discussion. it is not about the right of a specific user to express his feelings or thoughts or his actions, it is about the CONSEQUENCES of these actions on other , third party , by-standers users and members of the community - who happens to live in a certain territory under certain rules ( well known to the user who exploit that ) . Maybe I used the wrong words for the title as " political" might be interchangeable with " harmful " for the intended meaning . it might take off the edge or vector of political discussion.

  • First of all, my plead to not post the specifics in in comments in order to avoid the exact context was edited out (not sure why).

  • I feel some members miss the difference between "insulting" or "offensive" and "harmful" or dangerous".

  • By using words like "totalitarian" and "oppressive regimes" (however might be true)- one DOES make a political statement, so it is hard understand how one, at the same time, is being apolitical.

  • I feel I must again sharpen the point of this not having to do with political "offensive" or "insulting". This has to do with the fact that one user, is deliberately, and with clear and stated intent, is trying to harm another group of users for own gain. Unfortunately, me and my employees are in the second group (of being harmed).

  • I do not think I need to get into the discussion of what is to be considered "dangerous" or "harmful" like some members suggested - and also I did not want to dramatize the original question - But me being deported , or being put on some black-list that would delay border crossings , or even being visited by some 1994-like thought police thugs , or one of my employees being held for questioning - is "dangerous" or "harmful" enough. and yes - Even an internet outage is harmful - especially when it is being done deliberately by one member of the community towards the others.

  • I do not have nothing against the specific user, their political views or stands. As I recall, the user was even helpful to me numerous times (hence their appearance on my profile page).

  • PLEASE do not turn this into a one-specific-regime-political-discussion. it is not about the right of a specific user to express his feelings or thoughts or his actions, it is about the CONSEQUENCES of these actions on other , third party , by-standers users and members of the community - who happens to live in a certain territory under certain rules ( well known to the user who exploit that ) . Maybe I used the wrong words for the title as " political" might be interchangeable with " harmful " for the intended meaning . it might take off the edge or vector of political discussion.

  • First of all, my plead to not post the specifics in in comments in order to avoid the exact context was edited out (not sure why).

  • I feel some members miss the difference between "insulting" or "offensive" and "harmful" or dangerous".

  • By using words like "totalitarian" and "oppressive regimes" (however might be true)- one DOES make a political statement, so it is hard understand how one, at the same time, is being apolitical.

  • I feel I must again sharpen the point of this not having to do with political "offensive" or "insulting". This has to do with the fact that one user, is deliberately, and with clear and stated intent, is trying to harm another group of users for own gain. Unfortunately, me and my employees are in the second group (of being harmed).

  • I do not think I need to get into the discussion of what is to be considered "dangerous" or "harmful" like some members suggested - and also I did not want to dramatize the original question - But me being deported , or being put on some black-list that would delay border crossings , or even being visited by some 1984-like thought police thugs , or one of my employees being held for questioning - is "dangerous" or "harmful" enough. and yes - Even an internet outage is harmful - especially when it is being done deliberately by one member of the community towards the others.

  • I do not have nothing against the specific user, their political views or stands. As I recall, the user was even helpful to me numerous times (hence their appearance on my profile page).

  • PLEASE do not turn this into a one-specific-regime-political-discussion. it is not about the right of a specific user to express his feelings or thoughts or his actions, it is about the CONSEQUENCES of these actions on other , third party , by-standers users and members of the community - who happens to live in a certain territory under certain rules ( well known to the user who exploit that ) . Maybe I used the wrong words for the title as " political" might be interchangeable with " harmful " for the intended meaning . it might take off the edge or vector of political discussion.

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EDIT II :

I want to share a mail that I just got, related to this question. It is , IMHO , a little extreme and radical - even belligerent - but I think it has an important point of view.

If someone feels it is inappropriate or radical (like I feel) - please just edit it out and do not retaliate with anger votes. THIS IS NOT MY VIEW NOR DESIRE.

Hi.

I just saw your question [link] on SE , and got your mail from [ Link to local-language Forum ] where you had a profile.

I do not want to intervene or post a radical answer ( read below ) simply because I am a very passive user of SE, and do not really contribute to the site due to the amateur nature of my programming skills. I mostly read .

I do however in a similar situation like yourself, being a foreigner in [ Territory ] for over 15 years. - and I have , like you, saw the username in question, and aslo had outages, but was always passive also in that regards .

But - I must say , you are approaching it all wrong .

When I arrived to [ Territory ] from my own western developed country, my views and positions were exactly like all the other answers . [ Territory ] is oppressive regime - fight for the people's power etc . But after living here for 15 years - I know better. what I try to say is that you are wasting your energy trying to get US / EU dwelling citizens see your point from the comfort of their securities . A feasted person would never understand the hungry .

On the same time, I am quite sure that if someone would change their user name to a direct insult on a very known and controversial monotheist god ( that already provoked some scandals ) - the community will kick in and could not retain it's integrity . Especially if it > would be in some middle-eastern character set.

What I propose is a whole different approach. Don't fight it - embrace it .

Let us call all of the users we know inside [ Territory ], Foreigners and [ Natives ] alike to change our usernames to the exact one of that original user . I am sure that we could easily get a few thousands in a less than a week. I will even provide my own proxy infrastructure to do so . In a matter of days the [ NAME OF FIREWALL SYSTEM ] will kick into action and SE will be probably banned and loose all their traffic and millions of hits from [ Territory ]

Sometimes you have to deflect the damage away from you , and towards the other part , in order to resolve a matter .

The other option is to make a direct complaint in [ Territory ] to the competent authorities, with the predictable result of banning the whole SE network . Probably also the the banning of this one individual from [ TERRITORY ] and possibly all others with same real name . I would not go that way, but I would love to see SE fight on the same arena where mammoths like google, facebook, twitter and even the US government has already lost .

Like I said , It would be counter-productive to post this on SE as an answer . Will only drag spiralling arguments , downvotes avalanche and more irrelevant debate about freedom and rights .

If you want help in this matter ,please [ Censured :-) ]

EDIT II :

I want to share a mail that I just got, related to this question. It is , IMHO , a little extreme and radical - even belligerent - but I think it has an important point of view.

If someone feels it is inappropriate or radical (like I feel) - please just edit it out and do not retaliate with anger votes. THIS IS NOT MY VIEW NOR DESIRE.

Hi.

I just saw your question [link] on SE , and got your mail from [ Link to local-language Forum ] where you had a profile.

I do not want to intervene or post a radical answer ( read below ) simply because I am a very passive user of SE, and do not really contribute to the site due to the amateur nature of my programming skills. I mostly read .

I do however in a similar situation like yourself, being a foreigner in [ Territory ] for over 15 years. - and I have , like you, saw the username in question, and aslo had outages, but was always passive also in that regards .

But - I must say , you are approaching it all wrong .

When I arrived to [ Territory ] from my own western developed country, my views and positions were exactly like all the other answers . [ Territory ] is oppressive regime - fight for the people's power etc . But after living here for 15 years - I know better. what I try to say is that you are wasting your energy trying to get US / EU dwelling citizens see your point from the comfort of their securities . A feasted person would never understand the hungry .

On the same time, I am quite sure that if someone would change their user name to a direct insult on a very known and controversial monotheist god ( that already provoked some scandals ) - the community will kick in and could not retain it's integrity . Especially if it > would be in some middle-eastern character set.

What I propose is a whole different approach. Don't fight it - embrace it .

Let us call all of the users we know inside [ Territory ], Foreigners and [ Natives ] alike to change our usernames to the exact one of that original user . I am sure that we could easily get a few thousands in a less than a week. I will even provide my own proxy infrastructure to do so . In a matter of days the [ NAME OF FIREWALL SYSTEM ] will kick into action and SE will be probably banned and loose all their traffic and millions of hits from [ Territory ]

Sometimes you have to deflect the damage away from you , and towards the other part , in order to resolve a matter .

The other option is to make a direct complaint in [ Territory ] to the competent authorities, with the predictable result of banning the whole SE network . Probably also the the banning of this one individual from [ TERRITORY ] and possibly all others with same real name . I would not go that way, but I would love to see SE fight on the same arena where mammoths like google, facebook, twitter and even the US government has already lost .

Like I said , It would be counter-productive to post this on SE as an answer . Will only drag spiralling arguments , downvotes avalanche and more irrelevant debate about freedom and rights .

If you want help in this matter ,please [ Censured :-) ]

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