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In the review queues (and the triage queue in particular), there are three options for a post. One of those options is labeled "Requires Editing". In the description of what those options mean, it says:

Requires Editing for questions where edits by the author or others would result in a question that is clear and answerable

 

However, by consensus here on Meta, it has been decided that "Requires Editing" actually should be applied only to posts that the community can edit into shape, not posts that require editing by the original author. Such posts, it is argued, should be marked instead as "Unsalvageable" since the community can do nothing on its own to salvage them.

I don't want to debate the policy or the interpretation. I want to draw attention to the fact that there is currently a massive disconnect between the official guidance in the UI and the policy as it is enforced by the moderation team.

I know this has been asked before, and subsequently closed as a duplicate of a major triage review reworking proposal, but this text has not yet been fixed and I recently became aware that moderators are handing out review bans for users who choose "Requires Editing" for posts that…require editing.

This is completely unacceptable as far as I'm concerned. To be clear, I'm not proposing that we be less harsh on people who make bad decisions in the review queues, like choosing "Looks OK" on these problematic questions. I am, however, saying that we need to be fair. Either change the guidelines in the official UI, or stop manually issuing bans to people who choose what appears to be a completely valid choice.

In the review queues (and the triage queue in particular), there are three options for a post. One of those options is labeled "Requires Editing". In the description of what those options mean, it says:

Requires Editing for questions where edits by the author or others would result in a question that is clear and answerable

 

However, by consensus here on Meta, it has been decided that "Requires Editing" actually should be applied only to posts that the community can edit into shape, not posts that require editing by the original author. Such posts, it is argued, should be marked instead as "Unsalvageable" since the community can do nothing on its own to salvage them.

I don't want to debate the policy or the interpretation. I want to draw attention to the fact that there is currently a massive disconnect between the official guidance in the UI and the policy as it is enforced by the moderation team.

I know this has been asked before, and subsequently closed as a duplicate of a major triage review reworking proposal, but this text has not yet been fixed and I recently became aware that moderators are handing out review bans for users who choose "Requires Editing" for posts that…require editing.

This is completely unacceptable as far as I'm concerned. To be clear, I'm not proposing that we be less harsh on people who make bad decisions in the review queues, like choosing "Looks OK" on these problematic questions. I am, however, saying that we need to be fair. Either change the guidelines in the official UI, or stop manually issuing bans to people who choose what appears to be a completely valid choice.

In the review queues (and the triage queue in particular), there are three options for a post. One of those options is labeled "Requires Editing". In the description of what those options mean, it says:

Requires Editing for questions where edits by the author or others would result in a question that is clear and answerable

However, by consensus here on Meta, it has been decided that "Requires Editing" actually should be applied only to posts that the community can edit into shape, not posts that require editing by the original author. Such posts, it is argued, should be marked instead as "Unsalvageable" since the community can do nothing on its own to salvage them.

I don't want to debate the policy or the interpretation. I want to draw attention to the fact that there is currently a massive disconnect between the official guidance in the UI and the policy as it is enforced by the moderation team.

I know this has been asked before, and subsequently closed as a duplicate of a major triage review reworking proposal, but this text has not yet been fixed and I recently became aware that moderators are handing out review bans for users who choose "Requires Editing" for posts that…require editing.

This is completely unacceptable as far as I'm concerned. To be clear, I'm not proposing that we be less harsh on people who make bad decisions in the review queues, like choosing "Looks OK" on these problematic questions. I am, however, saying that we need to be fair. Either change the guidelines in the official UI, or stop manually issuing bans to people who choose what appears to be a completely valid choice.

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In the review queues (and the triage queue in particular), there are three options for a post. One of those options is labeled "Requires Editing". In the description of what those options mean, it says:

Requires Editing for questions where edits by the author or others would result in a question that is clear and answerable

However, by consensus here on Metaby consensus here on Meta, it has been decided that "Requires Editing" actually should be applied only to posts that the community can edit into shape, not posts that require editing by the original authornot posts that require editing by the original author. Such posts, it is argued, should be marked instead as "Unsalvageable" since the community can do nothing on its own to salvage them.

I don't want to debate the policy or the interpretation. I want to draw attention to the fact that there is currently a massive disconnect between the official guidance in the UI and the policy as it is enforced by the moderation team.

I know this has been asked beforehas been asked before, and subsequently closed as a duplicate of a major triage review reworking proposalmajor triage review reworking proposal, but this text has not yet been fixed and I recently became aware that moderators are handing out review bansmoderators are handing out review bans for users who choose "Requires Editing" for posts that…require editing.

This is completely unacceptable as far as I'm concerned. To be clear, I'm not proposing that we be less harsh on people who make bad decisions in the review queues, like choosing "Looks OK" on these problematic questions. I am, however, saying that we need to be fair. Either change the guidelines in the official UI, or stop manually issuing bans to people who choose what appears to be a completely valid choice.

In the review queues (and the triage queue in particular), there are three options for a post. One of those options is labeled "Requires Editing". In the description of what those options mean, it says:

Requires Editing for questions where edits by the author or others would result in a question that is clear and answerable

However, by consensus here on Meta, it has been decided that "Requires Editing" actually should be applied only to posts that the community can edit into shape, not posts that require editing by the original author. Such posts, it is argued, should be marked instead as "Unsalvageable" since the community can do nothing on its own to salvage them.

I don't want to debate the policy or the interpretation. I want to draw attention to the fact that there is currently a massive disconnect between the official guidance in the UI and the policy as it is enforced by the moderation team.

I know this has been asked before, and subsequently closed as a duplicate of a major triage review reworking proposal, but this text has not yet been fixed and I recently became aware that moderators are handing out review bans for users who choose "Requires Editing" for posts that…require editing.

This is completely unacceptable as far as I'm concerned. To be clear, I'm not proposing that we be less harsh on people who make bad decisions in the review queues, like choosing "Looks OK" on these problematic questions. I am, however, saying that we need to be fair. Either change the guidelines in the official UI, or stop manually issuing bans to people who choose what appears to be a completely valid choice.

In the review queues (and the triage queue in particular), there are three options for a post. One of those options is labeled "Requires Editing". In the description of what those options mean, it says:

Requires Editing for questions where edits by the author or others would result in a question that is clear and answerable

However, by consensus here on Meta, it has been decided that "Requires Editing" actually should be applied only to posts that the community can edit into shape, not posts that require editing by the original author. Such posts, it is argued, should be marked instead as "Unsalvageable" since the community can do nothing on its own to salvage them.

I don't want to debate the policy or the interpretation. I want to draw attention to the fact that there is currently a massive disconnect between the official guidance in the UI and the policy as it is enforced by the moderation team.

I know this has been asked before, and subsequently closed as a duplicate of a major triage review reworking proposal, but this text has not yet been fixed and I recently became aware that moderators are handing out review bans for users who choose "Requires Editing" for posts that…require editing.

This is completely unacceptable as far as I'm concerned. To be clear, I'm not proposing that we be less harsh on people who make bad decisions in the review queues, like choosing "Looks OK" on these problematic questions. I am, however, saying that we need to be fair. Either change the guidelines in the official UI, or stop manually issuing bans to people who choose what appears to be a completely valid choice.

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