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According to a highly-upvoted answer here, by someone who's clearly put considerable time and thought into putting together useful guidelines, we should not be clicking "Requires Editing" when further information is required from the author. Quote (emphasis original):

(Note that none of these include waiting for any further interaction with or effort from the question author. That's because if anything more is needed from them, even though it does require editing, it doesn't Require Editing and you shouldn't choose this option. It is difficult to over-emphasize this, and this is almost certainly the single most common error in Triage.)

However, the Triage Queue instructions themselves seem to directly contradict this, saying "Requires Editing for questions where edits by the author or others would result in a question that is clear and answerable" (emphasis added).

What is the correct answer?

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    Related 1, 2. Commented Mar 16, 2016 at 18:16
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    I voted to reopen this question because it is thoroughly not a duplicate of the linked question. There probably is a duplicate out there, but that isn't it.
    – user4639281
    Commented Mar 16, 2016 at 23:41
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    @TinyGiant That question does actually suggest changing the working that this question is concerned with, into something that would answer this question, but that makes up like 5% of what that question is talking about. But yeah, there are almost certainly much better dupes out there that just focus on this one problem, probably several.
    – Servy
    Commented Mar 16, 2016 at 23:46
  • @Servy precisely my point
    – user4639281
    Commented Mar 16, 2016 at 23:48
  • @TinyGiant That question answers this one, so it's not "thoroughly not a duplicate", as reading it would answer his question, it's just a bad duplicate, because there's a lot of noise he'd need to read through to find it.
    – Servy
    Commented Mar 17, 2016 at 13:07
  • @Servy it doesn't really answer this question as it suggests a change, whereas this question is asking for what the current guidance is, not suggesting a change, or even asking for anything to be changed. They are to very different questions on a similar topic, they are not duplicates.
    – user4639281
    Commented Mar 18, 2016 at 3:49
  • @TinyGiant That question is suggesting that the wording be changed to reflect the fact that people aren't supposed to be marking unclear questions as requires editing, which answers this question of what should you do with posts that are unclear. They're asking different questions, but that question answers this one.
    – Servy
    Commented Mar 18, 2016 at 14:31
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    @servy I sincerely disagree, I propose that we just agree to disagree and move on.
    – user4639281
    Commented Mar 20, 2016 at 2:11

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If it's not possible for the community to edit it into an appropriate question, don't select "requires editing". All you're doing is sending the post over to other community members and asking them to edit it, when they'll have nothing to do but vote to close the question, as you should have done from the start if the question isn't answerable, or fixable, by the community.

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    Thanks, so this must mean that the Triage Queue instructions are wrong, or at best misleading then? Commented Mar 16, 2016 at 18:50
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    @BradThomas Yes.
    – Servy
    Commented Mar 16, 2016 at 18:51
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    @Servy when does anything get done about it? Commented Mar 16, 2016 at 20:15
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    @JanDvorak I would have hoped that it would have been fixed like a year and a half ago, when I first pointed out the problem. I wouldn't have expected it to take that long, but here we are.
    – Servy
    Commented Mar 16, 2016 at 20:16
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    Someone suggesting that triage is broken and should be fixed? That's never happened before...
    – user4639281
    Commented Mar 16, 2016 at 23:40
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    My steward badge should be forfeited. I've been clicking Requires editing a few dozen times when the question lacked information :(.
    – YSC
    Commented Mar 18, 2016 at 9:38
  • Don't worry, the 6-8 estimation is never wrong.
    – Braiam
    Commented Mar 18, 2016 at 14:21
  • "they'll have nothing to do but vote to close the question". IIRC, the only option is to flag as "Very Low Quality". Which is different than "Vote to Close", but we don't get that option.
    – Teepeemm
    Commented Mar 19, 2016 at 18:00
  • @teepeemm there's nothing stopping you from navigating to the question and performing any of the actions available to you there
    – user4639281
    Commented Mar 20, 2016 at 2:09
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    So how come it's taking more than a year to remove three words from a website page? Commented Apr 27, 2016 at 7:36
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    @AdrienBrunelat Why are you asking me?
    – Servy
    Commented Apr 27, 2016 at 13:02
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As of today, the guidance now reads:

Requires Editing for questions that you can make clear and answerable by editing

...and also includes a second link to this meta answer as the last line in the expanded instructions (same answer linked to in "help separating questions" in the short explanation at the top).

This is based on a suggestion by K.Davis a few months back, and I think it nicely side-steps the problems inherent in asking reviewers to guess at what others are able to fix.

Of course, we'll see how much of an effect it actually has in practice.

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  • Why not change the balloon help that appears when you hover over the button to match the text above?
    – nurdglaw
    Commented Mar 20, 2020 at 20:32

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