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Aug 1, 2017 at 10:42 answer added Abdulla Nilam timeline score: 0
May 23, 2017 at 12:38 history edited CommunityBot
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Mar 20, 2017 at 9:34 history edited CommunityBot
replaced http://meta.stackoverflow.com/ with https://meta.stackoverflow.com/
Aug 29, 2016 at 18:09 history edited Kevin Montrose
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Aug 26, 2016 at 1:26 answer added auden timeline score: 2
Aug 25, 2016 at 0:36 comment added zondo @rdans: Don't you mean 6 to 8 weeks?
Aug 24, 2016 at 8:11 comment added rdans can you tell us if search is being improved in the next release?
Aug 24, 2016 at 8:06 comment added rdans "regular (roughly weekly) updates" is becoming 4-6 weeks
Aug 23, 2016 at 8:49 comment added NoDataDumpNoContribution Is there some statistics available how contributions and visits to Documentation have developed since the public start?
Aug 19, 2016 at 19:46 comment added Pekka why would I use it to back me up? Unless it's a super-specific issue that requires totally exact info from a project's maintainers, I could think of a number of reasons to link to a (future, healthy, well-updated) SO docs rather than official docs - an expectation of longevity; of a uniform URL scheme; of a widely recognized layout and format; a standardized, formalized way of fixing problems in the docs, or extending it yourself... on the basis that ten thousand eyeballs can see most errors in it, and get them fixed. (How that would work alongside official docs is a different question.)
Aug 18, 2016 at 15:31 comment added Mark Schultheiss Is it just me or should this "documentation" be in documentation?
Aug 15, 2016 at 15:48 comment added TylerH @MarkAmery For the examples
Aug 15, 2016 at 15:47 comment added TylerH @Adam I would hope their threshold for 'high rep' users would be significantly higher than 200 reputation (or 300 with the rep assoc bonus). I'm thinking 5,000 or 10,000.
Aug 15, 2016 at 15:46 comment added TylerH Any news on when the next update will come? Closing in on two weeks now.
Aug 10, 2016 at 10:02 comment added Mark Amery Why would I want to cite Stack Overflow documentation? I cite official documentation because it is an authority - I don't expect readers of my answer to blindly trust me, so I try to evidence all my claims, sometimes by quotes from official documentation or the pronouncements of a language's or library's own developers. Stack Overflow Documentation simply doesn't carry that authority - there's no reason somebody reading my answer would think Documentation is in any way more trustworthy than I am, so why would I use it to back me up?
Aug 9, 2016 at 21:23 comment added Daniel Nugent Just to note, it seem that the tag alias functionality is not working with an Android silver badge. My change in the android-activity tag went to review....
Aug 9, 2016 at 18:53 answer added adv12 timeline score: -1
Aug 9, 2016 at 15:08 comment added Adam At a minimum it ought to be the 200 rep without site bonus.
Aug 9, 2016 at 14:45 history edited TylerH CC BY-SA 3.0
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Aug 9, 2016 at 13:57 comment added TylerH @DanielM. It's likely not decided yet
Aug 8, 2016 at 16:44 answer added user128511 timeline score: 4
Aug 7, 2016 at 17:35 answer added RubberDuck timeline score: 6
Aug 7, 2016 at 15:50 comment added NoDataDumpNoContribution Btw. upcoming Write the Docs conference September 18-20 in Prague. Prague is a beautiful city and with SO now in the Documentation business this might be a good way to get new insights into what Docs may want to be - the topics of the speakers sound quite interesting.
Aug 6, 2016 at 20:43 comment added Daniel M. What counts as a "high rep" editor (for adding >6 examples)?
Aug 6, 2016 at 19:40 history edited Peter Mortensen CC BY-SA 3.0
Copy edited (e.g. ref. <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uniform_resource_locator>).
Aug 6, 2016 at 15:11 answer added sambul35 timeline score: 8
Aug 6, 2016 at 14:46 answer added DavidPostill timeline score: 24
Aug 6, 2016 at 12:39 answer added Toby timeline score: 6
Aug 6, 2016 at 12:20 answer added Gabriele Mariotti timeline score: 3
Aug 6, 2016 at 0:02 comment added mpag whoever created your mockup (and tag alias examples?) this week must have been staring at the one page I actually edited :P On another note, when you subsumed the tsql tag under sql-server and deleted the tsql entries (as per my request...at least in part), you didn't take away my massive accumulation of 2 rep points. I promise to not abuse my illegitimately gained p0werz resulting from my rep inflated by now-deleted content.
Aug 5, 2016 at 22:24 history edited Peter Mortensen CC BY-SA 3.0
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Aug 5, 2016 at 21:17 answer added Cimbali timeline score: 0
Aug 5, 2016 at 19:58 comment added Adam Lear StaffMod @AlonEitan Whoops, that's my bad. Had a stray ! when writing out the robots meta tag, so it was literally opposite day every time someone would open a topic. Fix pushed, will be live soon.
Aug 5, 2016 at 18:14 comment added Alex K @KreepN You have to just to add comment to the row of code in doc's example )). Everyone want to add dot or comma in documentation
Aug 5, 2016 at 17:44 comment added Braiam Is my impression @jtbandes, that Examples.SO is not meant to teach you something... but to get you where the documentation fails. Does the java generics documentation fails to explain what it is? If it doesn't then the documentation shouldn't regurgitate it.
Aug 5, 2016 at 14:53 comment added KreepN @AlexK Seems legit, you know 600 rep for like 3 years then +3500 in like a few months for documentation, ok /S
Aug 5, 2016 at 14:43 answer added Braiam timeline score: 9
Aug 5, 2016 at 14:31 comment added Kurtis Beavers Staff @AlexK meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/331663/…
Aug 5, 2016 at 14:28 comment added Alex K @KevinMontrose Are you planning to recalculate reputation for users? I have a good sample of growing rep in some popular tags: stackoverflow.com/users/903291/confiqure?tab=reputation. Good tool for cheaters to have +200 per day. Jon Skeet got new competitors ;)
Aug 5, 2016 at 13:43 answer added Yakk - Adam Nevraumont timeline score: 15
Aug 5, 2016 at 13:20 comment added Alon Eitan @KevinMontrose Why does only the main tag topics pages are crawlable but specific topics are blocked?
Aug 5, 2016 at 12:42 comment added Dalija Prasnikar Mod There are too many examples per topic because there is a need to make things organized. Some additional categorization of topics (maybe via tags) could help to alleviate this problem. For instance Android documentation has 146 topics and it is already unsearchable mess. And some topics have 20 or so examples. Splitting those would make even more mess. Other less popular tags will become just as messy as new content will be added.
Aug 5, 2016 at 12:06 comment added NoDataDumpNoContribution "Too much reputation awarded for contributions to single popular examples" It's easy to say it afterwards, but I really wonder what you were expecting how often popular examples would be voted on. Surely a hundred upvotes for at least 10 distinct editors resulting in thousands of rep was not unreasonable to expect even way before the launch. Well, you see the problem now and will surely find a way to fix it.
Aug 5, 2016 at 11:28 comment added Andras Deak -- Слава Україні @Nicol I've been grumping about SOD since the launch of public beta, so I don't disagree. I just thought I'd play devil's advocate for a change:D
Aug 5, 2016 at 9:47 answer added James Donnelly timeline score: 11
Aug 5, 2016 at 9:31 answer added elegent timeline score: 81
Aug 5, 2016 at 9:05 comment added Magisch @KevinMontrose Depending on how you do this, lots of people are going to lose multiple thousand rep a pop, and many of them will lose many privileges they've gained since. I'll expect the storm of whine that follows this to easily dwarf the fallout of the big question rep change recalc.
Aug 5, 2016 at 8:41 comment added ken2k Glad to see you've planned to re-work the reputation stuff from the ground. "Some tweaks" were definitely not enough to fix the currently broken system.
Aug 5, 2016 at 8:09 comment added NoDataDumpNoContribution Sounds all quite good so far. What is missing and hopefully addressed in one of the future updates is "topic organization", "tag discussion" and "edit conflicts".
Aug 5, 2016 at 7:38 comment added Ben Aaronson Focus sections and soft example caps sound good as a way of nudging users into doing things correctly. But what's already there on documentation is going to end up being a massive collection of "broken windows" suggesting alternative behaviour. Dealing with that has to be part of any plan to improve things.
Aug 5, 2016 at 4:43 comment added Cody Gray Mod Well, this is the first "update" to Documentation I've seen that actually looks promising to me. In particular, I'm quite glad to see the "shipped changes" paying attention to established expertise and improving the rejection reasons. Obviously the reputation system still needs some work, as does the horribly confusing UI. It would also be nice if there could be more done to discourage copy-paste from existing, well-done sources of documentation that we seek not to duplicate. Better official guidance on the mission of Docs would go a long way, as would [semi]-automated detection of plagiarism.
Aug 5, 2016 at 4:21 comment added jtbandes Suppose the SO documentation for Java Generics becomes one of the top search engine results for "java generics". Yet, the topic starts with a "focus" of "This topic demonstrates how to use generic types in class and method declarations…" Readers still may not even know what generics are. Should the examples be structured so that "what is this?" is immediately answered by the highest-voted example? Should the section named "focus" actually provide a definition? Or should it link to external documentation? None of these seems to fit the purpose of examples or the "focus" section.
Aug 5, 2016 at 2:49 comment added Nicol Bolas @AndrasDeak: "the hard part is rehashing it in a way that will fix it for good" The problem is not that it's hard. The problem is that they're willing to leave the problem there, letting it fester until they find a way to solve it. Right now, there are quite a few people who have full Q&A edit powers because of Docs.SO. Very soon, there will be at least one person on SO who has close-voting powers solely because of Docs.SO's ridiculous rep gain. This is not a tenable situation, and every day it continues, it becomes worse. "Wait and see" is not something I want to see happen to Q&A.
Aug 5, 2016 at 2:07 answer added Nicol Bolas timeline score: 169
Aug 5, 2016 at 1:10 comment added Kevin Montrose @knu any changes to the rep system will be accompanied by a rep recalc. We've already done one since launch.
Aug 5, 2016 at 0:53 comment added Erwin Brandstetter @AndrasDeak: I like Jeff's post, which is no surprise after I advocated as much in my answer the day before. And I am not blaming the staff. Typically, it's the management trying to push a new product. The staff has to deal with it. I really don't know who's fault it is. I also don't care much as long as they fix it.
Aug 4, 2016 at 23:54 comment added Andras Deak -- Слава Україні @Erwin, let's give the staff the benefit of the doubt (regardless of our personal beliefs:P). I'm pretty sure they saw that the reputation system is off; the hard part is rehashing it in a way that will fix it for good. Also, having a separate rep system is one among many suggestions that they received.
Aug 4, 2016 at 23:11 comment added Erwin Brandstetter Seriously? It would have taken me 5 minutes on a slow day to figure out that the reputation system for documentation is unbalanced, unfair and incompatible with SO (a.k.a. broken). I am convinced you have smart people working at SO, so I have a hard time believing it took you weeks to start suspecting as much. Looks more like you wanted to create a gold rush to push your new product disregarding collateral damage. It's the oldest dirty trick in the West. It should at least be a separate reputation system so the reputation of innocent bystanders is not devalued.
Aug 4, 2016 at 23:09 comment added Andras Deak -- Слава Україні @Knu there probably will
Aug 4, 2016 at 23:06 comment added Knu Will there be a recalc?
Aug 4, 2016 at 21:20 answer added Frank timeline score: 48
Aug 4, 2016 at 20:47 comment added Rob Grant @Shog9 oh thank goodness! I was starting to worry that you guys were serious about Docs being for real. World makes sense again :-)
Aug 4, 2016 at 20:42 comment added Shog9 Nice thing about having a beta is we can test out all these crazy ideas that folks have been asking for for years without breaking stuff for thousands of people, @davidism.
Aug 4, 2016 at 20:24 comment added Drew @davidism I couldn't agree more. That said, pleased at least with this as a start
Aug 4, 2016 at 20:13 comment added Andras Deak -- Слава Україні Wonderful, thank you for the intensive background work. One question though: when you say "Documentation" with a capital D, as in "creation of Documentation", as the ultimate purpose: do you mean Examples? I mean that the scope might still have to be specified.
Aug 4, 2016 at 20:09 comment added bwoebi Is example limits something which must be hard-enforced? It definitely should be resolved… but hard-cap? I think it rather should be something like an (un-dissmissable) flag by Community on the topic. That way one can still contribute something, but it gives also a bit time for content to be aggregated first before being split up. Also, soft limit is (I know it can be tweaked, just suggesting) probably too low. PHP Types has one example per type. There are alone like 7 types. Bam, limit immediately reached. That 20 examples are too much, is understandable, 10 examples are not quite too much…
Aug 4, 2016 at 19:57 comment added Machavity Mod I'm happy you can now reject dupes of topics, but what about dupes of other requests? Or at least showing a requester a list of previous requests?
Aug 4, 2016 at 19:56 comment added Frank "This topic covers..." seems too wordy to actually bother reading. I expect to write only sentence fragments, like "Array creation, modification and common operations"
Aug 4, 2016 at 19:55 comment added davidism So when is the "approve and reject edits with gold badge" and "votes count more with more rep" changes going to roll out to Q&A? :-) Seriously, that makes maintaining the docs a lot more convenient for me, thanks.
Aug 4, 2016 at 19:46 comment added KreepN I'm hoping that that the feedback from meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/329528/… is heavily taken into consideration and retroactively applied. With the devaluation of what reputation represents, your "plan" will surely dictate if people contribute to SO going forward.
Aug 4, 2016 at 19:32 comment added TylerH Very glad to hear about the increased bar for getting edits approved. I'd still like to see a higher bar for having the opportunity to review in the first place, though. 100/200 rep is just too low.
Aug 4, 2016 at 19:19 history asked Kevin Montrose CC BY-SA 3.0