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Mar 20, 2017 at 9:15 history edited CommunityBot
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Jan 30, 2016 at 0:31 comment added Mark Amery @DavidG The reason for the unusually hostile response may be that a main reason for the action seems to have been the large number of flags raised on the post - a problem that only affects moderators. I guess that, reasonably or not, many people feel resentment towards mods when they take actions that reduce their workload at the cost of actively harming or obstructing other people contributing to the site. Shog's +/-1 filter aimed at reducing rage-flags triggered by arguments and revenge attacks over downvotes is another example - a widely-hated policy from an otherwise hugely popular mod.
Jan 30, 2016 at 0:09 comment added Andras Deak -- Слава Україні @DavidG I can only speak for myself, but compared to the intense reaction from the community, I see very few pitchforks and torches. Most people are suggesting possible alternative courses of action, past and future. As for me, I do believe an apology makes a difference. To err is human, but being a fair and honest person (which should obviously be a requirement for any moderator) can only show in gestures like this. The point is not being perfect, but rather taking responsibility for one's own mistakes (and I believe an honest apology is an important part of this process).
Jan 30, 2016 at 0:00 comment added DavidG I don't understand why people are begging for blood. Something happened, that action was reversed, end of story. It just looks like a failed experiment to me. Does an apology make a difference? I don't think so. Also, locking the post prevents anything from happening, including voting so IMO that wasn't an option.
Jan 29, 2016 at 22:41 history edited George StockerMod CC BY-SA 3.0
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Jan 29, 2016 at 22:40 comment added Deer Hunter Related suggestion, open for discussion: meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/315797/…
Jan 29, 2016 at 22:18 comment added Deer Hunter @GeorgeStocker - yes, but can one concentrate enough? Is 'mod zone' on the hottest programming site in the world any different from the common 'programming zone'?
Jan 29, 2016 at 22:14 history edited George StockerMod CC BY-SA 3.0
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Jan 29, 2016 at 22:03 comment added Deer Hunter Maybe you can sleep on the issue a bit more, and make a proper apology. Please leave out any plane-boarding details. Think it's a good suggestion to refrain from modding while on a flight or getting ready for one.
Jan 29, 2016 at 21:21 comment added TylerH @JoshCrozier Modification: set the lock to only lock out users below a certain rep threshold. Maybe 5k, or 10k. I have seen a lot of great answers from years ago that still have errors in them. Even the famous "Parse HTML with Regex" question has an unintentional typo in it that made it onto the t-shirt that wasn't intended by the author. I'm the kind of person that is endlessly bothered by these things, but unfortunately the answer is locked and the moderators rejected my requests to fix it.
Jan 29, 2016 at 20:58 comment added Mark Amery I don't follow. How can Community Wiki stop edits being made? Isn't the entire point of Community Wiki to make editing available to all users and encourage it?
Jan 29, 2016 at 20:58 comment added gnat @Two-BitAlchemist yeah. Prior to voting, I re-read it twice trying to find plain "that was a mistake, sorry"
Jan 29, 2016 at 20:55 comment added Two-Bit Alchemist It's funny how your "bottom line" mentions you "acted from a position of frustration" (implying you made the wrong decision, no?) and yet your entire post, even after you've "slept on it" is just defensiveness about your original, wildly unpopular, and apparently unjustified action. No apology to the community, seemingly no regret (maybe you regret the community's reaction). Just sad.
Jan 29, 2016 at 20:38 comment added Andras Deak -- Слава Україні @JoshCrozier the post in question was also locked for a brief period of time by Shog9. This means that both new edits and comments are forbidden. The latter might be unnecessary for this question, but still far better solution in my opinion. And Bhargav meant this post as an example.
Jan 29, 2016 at 20:24 comment added Josh Crozier @BhargavRao Interesting. If that feature does exist already, then I would argue that's the action that should have been taken instead.
Jan 29, 2016 at 18:20 comment added Andras Deak -- Слава Україні @DavidG I'm only willing to call it abuse since we have yet to see a valid explanation to why CWing would solve anything concerning the question (after 2 answers from George). Only moderators can turn a question into CW, and for a very good reason...
Jan 29, 2016 at 17:54 comment added Josh Crozier [feature-request] - We need an edit lock that prevents users from editing extremely high traffic questions/answers that don't need improvement while still allowing voting/commenting. Mysticial's answer doesn't need any improvement which means that a community wiki makes absolutely no sense.
Jan 29, 2016 at 17:35 comment added Braiam @FrédéricHamidi Reminds me of this time I was was so eager to quickly code a small change to a live site. It was so small it just couldn't fail...
Jan 29, 2016 at 17:30 comment added NathanOliver Why couldn't it have waited until you had the time? I don't think waiting a day would have changed anything if you left it alone until you had the time to act properly.
Jan 29, 2016 at 17:29 comment added DavidG @AndrasDeak I'm not sure calling it an "abuse of mod powers" is really called for. It was a mistake, it's since been undone, I'm happy with that.
Jan 29, 2016 at 17:26 comment added Frédéric Hamidi This brings more light on what happened, and I believe an important factor was that plane you had to get on -- it might have made you take the CW decision in a more rushed manner than usual, and it apparently prevented you from properly defending yourself on Meta. Therefore, my humble suggestion would be to extend our Don't post and run away rule into Don't moderate and run away. You could have delegated the action to one of your fellow moderators and go catch that plane.
Jan 29, 2016 at 17:13 comment added Andras Deak -- Слава Україні Also, looking at the community's response and the apparent blatant abuse of mod powers, I would have expected a lot more mea culpa.
Jan 29, 2016 at 17:09 comment added ken2k Not sure you actually evaluated the losses for @Mysticial...
Jan 29, 2016 at 17:08 comment added miradulo It's been around for years, and it isn't as though it gets edited every day. Why would you take brash action while figuring out "a better way to handle the issue" instead of leaving it and figuring out how to appropriately handle the issue in your own opinion first?
Jan 29, 2016 at 17:08 comment added Andras Deak -- Слава Україні "On a regular basis": how often does that mean? Also, how does transitioning to CW help with edits? Doesn't CW make it easier for users to edit the posts? All of them? And it would seem that your assessment of "least destructive thing" was incorrect. And that making such a huge unsolicited change before going off-line was a bit rushed.
Jan 29, 2016 at 17:05 history answered George StockerMod CC BY-SA 3.0