Timeline for Can we do something about old/outdated/terrible highly upvoted answers?
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Nov 6, 2019 at 14:14 | comment | added | user736893 | "Terrible by all accounts"... has 300 upvotes | |
May 23, 2017 at 12:38 | history | edited | CommunityBot |
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Jan 11, 2016 at 19:09 | answer | added | canon | timeline score: 18 | |
Jan 9, 2016 at 22:11 | answer | added | Martin Tournoij | timeline score: 1 | |
Jan 8, 2016 at 8:03 | comment | added | NoDataDumpNoContribution | @PeteTNT And lots of people liked it and found it even a cool. Actually the syntax has a certain something. While it's dangerous to use, unfortunately it looks kind of elegant too. What is remarkable is the editing orgy yesterday. At least five major edits with big warning signs and at the end the answer is back at the initial state (of seven years before) and despite the warning people upvoted it. I personally believe this was an extreme outlier. Usually the voting is accurate with some noise. As long as there are not too many such cases we could probably solve them all just by meta effect. | |
Jan 8, 2016 at 7:30 | comment | added | Pete TNT | @Trilarion I think that the meta effect is nice, but then again that answer was there for nearly seven years | |
Jan 7, 2016 at 21:12 | comment | added | MikeMB | @Trilarion: Yes, actually I'd say this got a little out of hand, but considering the number of votes already on it that was probably necessary. | |
Jan 7, 2016 at 21:06 | comment | added | NoDataDumpNoContribution | @MikeMB I guess the while/for loop should have been one of the top voted answers of the time back then. The OP asked for jquery but of course normal javascript is part of jquery. There is this duplicate from 2011 and the top voted answer is the for loop. | |
Jan 7, 2016 at 21:04 | comment | added | NoDataDumpNoContribution | Btw. the meta effect of today is about 80 downvotes on eval and 60 upvotes on reduce. Do we really need the deprecate thing? | |
Jan 7, 2016 at 21:04 | comment | added | MikeMB | @Trilarion: The question, the accepted answer and the eval answer (which I believe is the only really problematic one) were posted in 2009, the preferred one in 2012, so I was wondering, if the accepted answer was the best one in 2009 (the eval version was probably already problematic back then) | |
Jan 7, 2016 at 20:55 | comment | added | NoDataDumpNoContribution | @MikeMB I think in this case the answers are rather bad, not really outdated because the first answer with the preferred (reduce) solution dates back to 2012. So already then or before the technology was there. | |
Jan 7, 2016 at 20:54 | comment | added | NoDataDumpNoContribution | Btw. another evil eval of the same kind. | |
Jan 7, 2016 at 20:20 | comment | added | MikeMB | Just to understand this (I don't know anything about javascript). Have the answers always been bad or are they just outdated? | |
Jan 7, 2016 at 20:03 | comment | added | Tricky12 | Personally, I think that if you are an actual web developer (not a college student looking for the easy-way-out on homework/projects), then you are going to spend the time looking through every answer when you are Google searching and land on SO (or somewhere else). An experienced developer (should) know the consequence of copying and pasting the first answer they see, without reading further into it (comments, other answers, etc.). As such, I don't personally have an issue with the current setup. But then again, I'm nowhere near a power-user on SO. | |
Jan 7, 2016 at 18:57 | comment | added | Florian Margaine | @Cypher oh yes, I'm totally a rep whore. My history shows it. I'm also looking for badges! | |
Jan 7, 2016 at 18:42 | comment | added | Cypher | Way to farm rep... | |
Jan 7, 2016 at 15:00 | comment | added | Braiam | Maybe we should prove OP's point with this query. It tell us which answer anonymous users found the accepted answer more helpful... and unhelpful. But that's not everything, hot in its tail, the next more unhelpful was the eval solution, then the Q itself, and on the 4th position the for loop. | |
Jan 7, 2016 at 14:48 | answer | added | user177800 | timeline score: -7 | |
Jan 7, 2016 at 14:26 | history | reopened | Madara's GhostMod | ||
Jan 7, 2016 at 14:21 | history | closed |
vaultah Cerbrus Glorfindel brasofilo David says Reinstate Monica |
Duplicate of How can we deal with hugely upvoted, bad and outdated answers? | |
Jan 7, 2016 at 13:30 | answer | added | user50049 | timeline score: 59 | |
Jan 7, 2016 at 13:02 | review | Close votes | |||
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Jan 7, 2016 at 12:46 | comment | added | NoDataDumpNoContribution | Btw. Someone gave a very similar answer (using reduce) already a year before Florian Margaine come up with the idea. And it doesn't end there. One year later again somebody came up with reduce and one year later again. This guy measured the execution time and arrived that reduce is even faster than a while loop (+1 for actually measuring it)!! | |
Jan 7, 2016 at 12:32 | comment | added | NoDataDumpNoContribution | @Cerbrus I did. However 3 other guys didn't and so the system didn't mention it. But also the discussion is interesting. So while it is a duplicate, I'm happy with discussing it. | |
Jan 7, 2016 at 12:29 | comment | added | Cerbrus | Then CV as dupe. Not as off-topic. | |
Jan 7, 2016 at 11:24 | history | edited | Madara's GhostMod | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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Jan 7, 2016 at 11:23 | comment | added | user3956566 | I agree the question's title is the question. | |
Jan 7, 2016 at 11:23 | history | reopened |
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Jan 7, 2016 at 11:21 | comment | added | Cerbrus | The closure as "This question does not appear to seek input and discussion from the community" is nonsense. There's plenty of dscussion going on here. | |
Jan 7, 2016 at 11:14 | history | closed |
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Jan 7, 2016 at 11:04 | review | Close votes | |||
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Jan 7, 2016 at 10:51 | comment | added | user | "Can we do something" - Maybe remove or change the voting badges, increase rep threshold for upvoting rights. I don't know how willing the SE would be though; they have shown (in some of their other sites) that they like the increase in popularity and user happiness (even at the expense of quality). | |
Jan 7, 2016 at 10:34 | history | edited | Tim | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
Sounds less arrogant this way (no offence, just don't think it will do any good stating an answer is good simply because you wrote it)
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Jan 7, 2016 at 10:31 | history | edited | Madara's GhostMod |
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Jan 7, 2016 at 10:24 | comment | added | Olivier Grégoire | Florian Margaine is complaining (since he posted this meta topic), Pekka 웃 is complaining as well (since he asked the OP to switch answer). So... yes, people are complaining. | |
Jan 7, 2016 at 10:22 | comment | added | Madara's Ghost Mod | @OlivierGrégoire I don't think anyone's complaining about OP's decision to accept the answer. He asked and was answered. | |
Jan 7, 2016 at 10:21 | comment | added | Olivier Grégoire | @MadaraUchiha Then people shouldn't complain that the OP accepted the answer at the time he did so. | |
Jan 7, 2016 at 10:19 | comment | added | NoDataDumpNoContribution | It cannot be so difficult adding up some numbers in Javascript, can it? What about a single good answer that shows the three common approaches like plain iterating, using reduce or using jquery (if this gives any advantage at all) and comparing execution speed. That could then be an outstanding answer. | |
Jan 7, 2016 at 10:19 | answer | added | Madara's GhostMod | timeline score: -15 | |
Jan 7, 2016 at 10:17 | comment | added | Madara's Ghost Mod | @OlivierGrégoire Because even moderators can't move the accepted mark. That's a power reserved only to OP. Were I able to do so, I would have done so in a heartbeat in this particular case. | |
Jan 7, 2016 at 10:14 | comment | added | Cerbrus | @OlivierGrégoire: If someone asks you how to cross the Atlantic with a canoe, wouldn't you tell him to use a plane, instead? Just because the OP requests a certain method, doesn't mean that's the best method. Also, mods can't change what answer is accepted. | |
Jan 7, 2016 at 10:14 | comment | added | Olivier Grégoire | Well, if you don't care, why don't you continue not caring and move the accepted answer yourself, or ask the SO guys to do it directly? | |
Jan 7, 2016 at 10:11 | comment | added | Madara's Ghost Mod | @OlivierGrégoire I honestly don't care at this point, as OP is long long gone. The question has an extremely high value for visitors from Google, and we want the best possible info to be at the top. | |
Jan 7, 2016 at 10:11 | answer | added | Maroun | timeline score: 34 | |
Jan 7, 2016 at 10:10 | comment | added | Olivier Grégoire |
I think that the question was originally rather clear: how to do so with jquery . The intent has been lost in continuous editing. The accepted answer is coherent with the initial question. Before asking to make your answer the accepted answer, you should consider the original question.
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Jan 7, 2016 at 10:10 | comment | added | Madara's Ghost Mod |
@Trilarion That answer is also incorrect. i represents the array's keys, and not the values. So that will fail for any array that's not a consecutive list of numbers starting with 0.
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Jan 7, 2016 at 10:08 | comment | added | NoDataDumpNoContribution | I like the answer from amber too (stackoverflow.com/a/1230238/1536976). Without fancy stuff this sounds like the obvious approach at obtaining the sum of all elements of an array: just iterate over the array and sum. | |
Jan 7, 2016 at 10:06 | answer | added | Magisch | timeline score: 4 | |
Jan 7, 2016 at 10:00 | comment | added | DaveRandom |
How about a feature that would allow the community to vote to change the accepted answer, that requires max(10, acceptedAnser.score) + 1 votes to change the accept? Note that this would be separate from upvoting an answer, in order to cast a change-accept vote a user would have to upvote the answer and explicitly vote to change the accepted answer. Could be restricted to e.g. "established" (1K+) users.
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Jan 7, 2016 at 10:00 | comment | added | NoDataDumpNoContribution | Downvoting seems like a possible way. May be slow but surely does the right thing in the end. | |
Jan 7, 2016 at 10:00 | comment | added | Magisch | "eval to do a sum." You what mate? | |
Jan 7, 2016 at 9:55 | comment | added | Hans Passant | Vote totals depend on the number of views first, the quality of the Q+A is a distant second factor. That one has had over a hundred thousand programmers looking at it. No, we can't reasonably stop them from looking. Or expect them to know the proper answer, they wouldn't have a reason to look. Or expect them to know anything about Lisp :) The accept mark is usually a good way to steer away from popularity, too bad it has the wrong one. Your beef is with @amir. | |
Jan 7, 2016 at 9:53 | comment | added | Maroun | I don't see anything wrong with bad answers. They're answers, and some people might find it useful for their specific use. If you don't agree with their approach, downvote and explain in comments - this might help future users to see its bad impact. | |
Jan 7, 2016 at 9:50 | comment | added | Cerbrus | @Jimbo: The answer should mention that it's how "not" to do it. If it doesn't, it's a perfectly valid reason to downvote the answer. | |
Jan 7, 2016 at 9:49 | comment | added | Cerbrus |
@DenysSéguret: ah, I see. However, then the correct answer would be: "Don't use $.each ", use x instead", as I'm sure you'll agree :-)
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Jan 7, 2016 at 9:47 | comment | added | Jimbo | I feel that if the answers were incorrect, the community would have voted them down. Even if they suck, they're still answers - and it helps to show others how not to do it. | |
Jan 7, 2016 at 9:47 | comment | added | Denys Séguret | @Cerbrus OP explicitly asked how to do it with $.each, so that answer was legitimate, even if it should have also explained how to correctly do that sum. | |
Jan 7, 2016 at 9:46 | comment | added | Denys Séguret | I feel like the problem is more general. We can find other QA were expert programmers of the field would have not made the choice of OP. And often not the choice of voters. | |
Jan 7, 2016 at 9:45 | comment | added | Cerbrus | How the heck did the jQuery solution get that many votes? Faith in humanity: Gone. | |
Jan 7, 2016 at 9:43 | comment | added | Pekka | I left a comment for the OP in case he ever comes back. (Last seen February last year) | |
Jan 7, 2016 at 9:42 | comment | added | Pekka | Your answer is highest voted though - although I agree it is annoying that the one with the check mark sticks to the top. That should be done away with (but so far they've resisted the request.) | |
Jan 7, 2016 at 9:41 | history | asked | Florian Margaine | CC BY-SA 3.0 |