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Yesterday, I asked this question on Meta. The question was about changing our close vote reason for a question which has been edited since casting our close vote reason. The edit invalidated what our currently voted on close-vote reason, but morphed the question into another closable problem.

As I pointed out in that question, thisRobert Harvey's answer to Why can't we vote to close a question after the original vote was retracted? does a fair enough job of explaining why we can't cast a new close vote after retracting our vote or after the question has been reopened.

Furthermore, thisShog9's answer to Should I vote to reopen when I believe the reason for closing no longer applies? seems to suggest that I shouldn't vote to re-open a question unless it should be re-openopened, even if the current close reason is inappropriate. Based on that answer, it would seem to suggest that I also shouldn't retract my close vote (as it still deserves to be closed).

If thisTrilarion's answer to my question yesterday is the consensus, that changing a close vote reason after a question is edited is akin to double-voting, then should we allow users that come to the question later (and reviewers) to vote to change the close vote reason (the big explanation in the big gray box under the question)?

ThisCody Gray's answer to this questionAuto-comment close votes for all close reasons suggests that this big gray box I'm referring to should be the most obvious explanation as to why the question is currently closed (though he also recommends detailed comments from close-voters to explain to the asker the specific problems--which I try to do). And if this is the case, it doesn't do much good for that big gray box to have an outdated close reason, does it?

For example, this question, this questionRestarting game with a button started as a question that[now deleted] originally didn't contain enough detail. You can view the edits, as well as my comments on the now deleted answer which point to the question clearly not having enough detail as originally posted. It's not until several back-and-forth comments for the question to be clear enough and contain enough detail for the question to have shown itself to be a duplicate.

I commented that the question was a duplicate and any future close votes should be directed as a duplicate of the question I linked, but at this point there were already 3 close votes out of 5. TheThe question did get closed, but closed as "unclear what you're asking". I'm not sure there are any edits that could be made to make the question any more clear.

Yesterday, I asked this question on Meta. The question was about changing our close vote reason for a question which has been edited since casting our close vote reason. The edit invalidated what our currently voted on close-vote reason, but morphed the question into another closable problem.

As I pointed out in that question, this answer does a fair enough job of explaining why we can't cast a new close vote after retracting our vote or after the question has been reopened.

Furthermore, this answer seems to suggest that I shouldn't vote to re-open a question unless it should be re-open, even if the current close reason is inappropriate. Based on that answer, it would seem to suggest that I also shouldn't retract my close vote (as it still deserves to be closed).

If this answer to my question yesterday is the consensus, that changing a close vote reason after a question is edited is akin to double-voting, then should we allow users that come to the question later (and reviewers) to vote to change the close vote reason (the big explanation in the big gray box under the question)?

This answer to this question suggests that this big gray box I'm referring to should be the most obvious explanation as to why the question is currently closed (though he also recommends detailed comments from close-voters to explain to the asker the specific problems--which I try to do). And if this is the case, it doesn't do much good for that big gray box to have an outdated close reason, does it?

For example, this question started as a question that didn't contain enough detail. You can view the edits, as well as my comments on the now deleted answer which point to the question clearly not having enough detail as originally posted. It's not until several back-and-forth comments for the question to be clear enough and contain enough detail for the question to have shown itself to be a duplicate.

I commented that the question was a duplicate and any future close votes should be directed as a duplicate of the question I linked, but at this point there were already 3 close votes. The question did get closed, but closed as "unclear what you're asking". I'm not sure there are any edits that could be made to make the question any more clear.

Yesterday, I asked this question on Meta about changing our close vote reason for a question which has been edited since casting our close vote reason. The edit invalidated what our currently voted on close-vote reason, but morphed the question into another closable problem.

As I pointed out in that question, Robert Harvey's answer to Why can't we vote to close a question after the original vote was retracted? does a fair enough job of explaining why we can't cast a new close vote after retracting our vote or after the question has been reopened.

Furthermore, Shog9's answer to Should I vote to reopen when I believe the reason for closing no longer applies? seems to suggest that I shouldn't vote to re-open a question unless it should be re-opened, even if the current close reason is inappropriate. Based on that answer, it would seem to suggest that I also shouldn't retract my close vote (as it still deserves to be closed).

If Trilarion's answer to my question yesterday is the consensus, that changing a close vote reason after a question is edited is akin to double-voting, then should we allow users that come to the question later (and reviewers) to vote to change the close vote reason (the big explanation in the big gray box under the question)?

Cody Gray's answer to Auto-comment close votes for all close reasons suggests that this big gray box I'm referring to should be the most obvious explanation as to why the question is currently closed (though he also recommends detailed comments from close-voters to explain to the asker the specific problems--which I try to do). And if this is the case, it doesn't do much good for that big gray box to have an outdated close reason, does it?

For example, this question, Restarting game with a button [now deleted] originally didn't contain enough detail. You can view the edits, as well as my comments on the now deleted answer which point to the question clearly not having enough detail as originally posted. It's not until several back-and-forth comments for the question to be clear enough and contain enough detail for the question to have shown itself to be a duplicate.

I commented that the question was a duplicate and any future close votes should be directed as a duplicate of the question I linked, but at this point there were already 3 close votes out of 5. The question did get closed, but closed as "unclear what you're asking". I'm not sure there are any edits that could be made to make the question any more clear.

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For example, this questionthis question started as a question that didn't contain enough detail. You can view the edits, as well as my comments on the now deleted answer which point to the question clearly not having enough detail as originally posted. It's not until several back-and-forth comments for the question to be clear enough and contain enough detail for the question to have shown itself to be a duplicate.

I commented that the question was a duplicatecommented that the question was a duplicate and any future close votes should be directed as a duplicate of the question I linked, but at this point there were already 3 close votes. The question did get closed, but closed as "unclear what you're asking". I'm not sure there are any edits that could be made to make the question any more clear.

This can be misleading to the asker and could potentially also be misleading to reviewers. "This question looks clear enough to me! I'm voting to reopen!" And it's particularly problematic, because without any upvotes, this comment which points to the duplicatecomment which points to the duplicate isn't very immediately visible.

For example, this question started as a question that didn't contain enough detail. You can view the edits, as well as my comments on the now deleted answer which point to the question clearly not having enough detail as originally posted. It's not until several back-and-forth comments for the question to be clear enough and contain enough detail for the question to have shown itself to be a duplicate.

I commented that the question was a duplicate and any future close votes should be directed as a duplicate of the question I linked, but at this point there were already 3 close votes. The question did get closed, but closed as "unclear what you're asking". I'm not sure there are any edits that could be made to make the question any more clear.

This can be misleading to the asker and could potentially also be misleading to reviewers. "This question looks clear enough to me! I'm voting to reopen!" And it's particularly problematic, because without any upvotes, this comment which points to the duplicate isn't very immediately visible.

For example, this question started as a question that didn't contain enough detail. You can view the edits, as well as my comments on the now deleted answer which point to the question clearly not having enough detail as originally posted. It's not until several back-and-forth comments for the question to be clear enough and contain enough detail for the question to have shown itself to be a duplicate.

I commented that the question was a duplicate and any future close votes should be directed as a duplicate of the question I linked, but at this point there were already 3 close votes. The question did get closed, but closed as "unclear what you're asking". I'm not sure there are any edits that could be made to make the question any more clear.

This can be misleading to the asker and could potentially also be misleading to reviewers. "This question looks clear enough to me! I'm voting to reopen!" And it's particularly problematic, because without any upvotes, this comment which points to the duplicate isn't very immediately visible.

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Yesterday, I asked this question on MetaI asked this question on Meta. The question was about changing our close vote reason for a question which has been edited since casting our close vote reason. The edit invalidated what our currently voted on close-vote reason, but morphed the question into another closable problem.

As I pointed out in that question, this answerthis answer does a fair enough job of explaining why we can't cast a new close vote after retracting our vote or after the question has been reopened.

Furthermore, this answerthis answer seems to suggest that I shouldn't vote to re-open a question unless it should be re-open, even if the current close reason is inappropriate. Based on that answer, it would seem to suggest that I also shouldn't retract my close vote (as it still deserves to be closed).

If this answerthis answer to my question yesterday is the consensus, that changing a close vote reason after a question is edited is akin to double-voting, then should we allow users that come to the question later (and reviewers) to vote to change the close vote reason (the big explanation in the big gray box under the question)?

This answerThis answer to this question suggests that this big gray box I'm referring to should be the most obvious explanation as to why the question is currently closed (though he also recommends detailed comments from close-voters to explain to the asker the specific problems--which I try to do). And if this is the case, it doesn't do much good for that big gray box to have an outdated close reason, does it?

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Yesterday, I asked this question on Meta. The question was about changing our close vote reason for a question which has been edited since casting our close vote reason. The edit invalidated what our currently voted on close-vote reason, but morphed the question into another closable problem.

As I pointed out in that question, this answer does a fair enough job of explaining why we can't cast a new close vote after retracting our vote or after the question has been reopened.

Furthermore, this answer seems to suggest that I shouldn't vote to re-open a question unless it should be re-open, even if the current close reason is inappropriate. Based on that answer, it would seem to suggest that I also shouldn't retract my close vote (as it still deserves to be closed).

If this answer to my question yesterday is the consensus, that changing a close vote reason after a question is edited is akin to double-voting, then should we allow users that come to the question later (and reviewers) to vote to change the close vote reason (the big explanation in the big gray box under the question)?

This answer to this question suggests that this big gray box I'm referring to should be the most obvious explanation as to why the question is currently closed (though he also recommends detailed comments from close-voters to explain to the asker the specific problems--which I try to do). And if this is the case, it doesn't do much good for that big gray box to have an outdated close reason, does it?

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Yesterday, I asked this question on Meta. The question was about changing our close vote reason for a question which has been edited since casting our close vote reason. The edit invalidated what our currently voted on close-vote reason, but morphed the question into another closable problem.

As I pointed out in that question, this answer does a fair enough job of explaining why we can't cast a new close vote after retracting our vote or after the question has been reopened.

Furthermore, this answer seems to suggest that I shouldn't vote to re-open a question unless it should be re-open, even if the current close reason is inappropriate. Based on that answer, it would seem to suggest that I also shouldn't retract my close vote (as it still deserves to be closed).

If this answer to my question yesterday is the consensus, that changing a close vote reason after a question is edited is akin to double-voting, then should we allow users that come to the question later (and reviewers) to vote to change the close vote reason (the big explanation in the big gray box under the question)?

This answer to this question suggests that this big gray box I'm referring to should be the most obvious explanation as to why the question is currently closed (though he also recommends detailed comments from close-voters to explain to the asker the specific problems--which I try to do). And if this is the case, it doesn't do much good for that big gray box to have an outdated close reason, does it?

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