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Jun 1, 2021 at 13:42 vote accept teynon
May 27, 2021 at 11:11 history edited Laurel CC BY-SA 4.0
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May 27, 2021 at 9:29 history edited Jon ClementsMod
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May 27, 2021 at 5:22 answer added gparyani timeline score: 11
Mar 20, 2017 at 9:34 history edited CommunityBot
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Jul 15, 2016 at 6:14 comment added Draken Yep, I've got the same @anderas, was about to post about it until I spotted this question. It's annoying me as well, as the title uses incorrect wording and I want to correct it :(
Jul 15, 2016 at 5:58 comment added anderas This bug is still open. It happens to me right now on meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/327981/… .
Mar 17, 2015 at 23:20 comment added Vitruvie I'd call this a bug rather than a feature request.
Jul 17, 2014 at 15:08 comment added BradleyDotNET Its been 45 minutes and its still on the list. In fact, it must be getting cached server side because it was there on my first page access (and already deleted). Even if its not that big a deal, I can understand lower rep users being very frustrated by this.
Jul 17, 2014 at 14:44 comment added neminem It happened again, to meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/265900/… - this is pretty silly. I can't imagine it would be so difficult to check whether a question is a hot question when you delete it, and remove it from that list (and recache) if it is? Looking up the hot questions list might happen a jillion times a day, but I can't imagine deleting posts from meta happens nearly so often.
Jun 30, 2014 at 17:19 comment added teynon @Joe, thats why it's a feature request, because we are having this problem. Also, since it has recently changed, perhaps its something minor they missed. Doesn't matter how bright you are, small things can still be missed. Regardless, this is simply a request to improve something that is less than ideal.
Jun 30, 2014 at 17:17 comment added Joe I doubt IsHotQuestion is an attribute of Question. It's probably simply a table of question IDs. Honestly, the SO people are pretty bright. Isn't it worth giving them some credit for being halfway competent? If it worked as you suggest it seems like it wouldn't make sense to have this problem...
Jun 30, 2014 at 17:16 comment added teynon @Joe Is each individual question cached? I would imagine that each time the question loads, it loads the most recent information for the question. So if Question.IsHotQuestion == true, rebuild cache. On Rebuild Cache, Set the 4 "hot" questions IsHotQuestion to false, and when the next 4 are picked, set the questions IsHotQuestion to true. That leads to the same amount of load for individual questions and then an addition of 8 queries for the rebuilding of the Hot Meta section. Or if you group those queries, 1 query.
Jun 30, 2014 at 17:12 comment added Joe Add a flag where? You're still taking sql queries all over the place. You have to put a flag in a table, and that table would have to be queried every page load and/or every delete press. Instead they just build the hot meta whatever as a static web page, include it in each page load, and re-create the page every so often, one query executed per fifteen minutes or whatever instead of many many queries, one per delete.
Jun 30, 2014 at 17:10 comment added teynon @Joe I haven't seen how Stack Overflow code looks, but I would think when the Hot Meta Posts gets built that it would add a flag to the question and the question could make that determination there. Then the check wouldn't be invasive at all, since the question has to be loaded anyways. But again, I don't know the back-end code for Stack Overflow. Seems like a pretty simple thing that would improve user experience if it's done properly.
Jun 30, 2014 at 17:07 comment added Joe @Tom, but that still would put a significant load every time the delete button is hit, to check to see if the deleted Q is a hot Q or not.
Jun 30, 2014 at 16:52 comment added nneonneo Was just about to come here to post the same thing :)]
Jun 30, 2014 at 16:48 comment added teynon I'm not talking about every single page load. I'm talking about the Delete button. When the question is deleted, which happens once, the list (in my mind) should have been updated / recached.
Jun 30, 2014 at 16:47 comment added Servy @Tom The whole point of caching is to avoid doing those types of checks on every single page load. It'll go away in a few minutes, and having a link like that there for just a few minutes simply isn't the end of the world.
Jun 30, 2014 at 16:46 comment added teynon @Servy No, but I would think the system would be able to rebuild the cached list when it recognizes a deleted question?
Jun 30, 2014 at 16:46 comment added Hans Passant It was deleted 15 minutes ago. Not everything updates within a second.
Jun 30, 2014 at 16:45 comment added Servy Presumably deleted questions are already filtered, it was just cached. I wouldn't expect the host meta posts to be queried on demand.
Jun 30, 2014 at 16:43 comment added Seth Battin Searching for similar questions from the 404 lead to this one. The system works.
Jun 30, 2014 at 16:43 comment added Taryn Mod Just get 10k+ rep and you can see deleted posts. :)
Jun 30, 2014 at 16:41 history edited TarynMod CC BY-SA 3.0
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Jun 30, 2014 at 16:39 history asked teynon CC BY-SA 3.0