What does Stack Overflow do to prevent people farming reputation, such as creating multiple accounts, having them all ask questions, having them all selecting them as best answer, up voting his answers, repeat?
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There aren't any mechanical safeguards in place preventing anyone from creating multiple OpenID (or some other SSO) credentials and creating accounts with them.
We just have scripts that invalidate blatant incidents of serial voting after the fact (leaving a nasty mark on someone's reputation history), and flags and moderators to police this sort of activity, deleting sock puppets and suspending offenders.
Only a person's own integrity can keep them in check.
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12Note that this is something quite different from a group of users voting exclusively for one another - the group as a whole may not realize that they're biasing their votes too much on one another and we handle such cases differently, but a single user creating socks or soliciting votes from people they know is knowingly cheating the system.– BoltClock ModCommented Feb 12, 2016 at 3:40
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One good possibility: stackapps.com/questions/6729/stack-overflow-vote-fraud-script Commented Feb 13, 2016 at 10:18
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@CiroSantilli, Doesn't exist anymore, seems like the mods are pretty seriously effective :-) Commented Feb 14, 2016 at 17:23
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3@JonasCz: Speaking of which, I might have burned the OP to smithereens with my answer. Oops.– BoltClock ModCommented Feb 14, 2016 at 17:31
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1@JonasCz by coincidence it just got autoremoved it seems. Shame, since the more downvotes that got, the better. Here's gitHub: github.com/cirosantilli/stack-overflow-vote-fraud-script Commented Feb 14, 2016 at 17:55
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1I'm not sure that the mark is so nasty RE:
Should I be concerned about these correction statements on my profile?
No, not at all. It's only an indication of reputation change. After all, we can't control the actions of other users.
stackoverflow.com/help/serial-voting-reversed Commented Feb 14, 2016 at 21:15 -
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@sehe I just though it was fun / pertinent to this thread. I don't see any way to get money from that repo + will likely generate more bad than good rep ;-) Intentions are good though. If the community wants to audit the current blackbox rep reversal system, that script can help. Commented Feb 14, 2016 at 21:17
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@sehe I believe real hackers will always have the best closed source hacking tools. I'd put more trust in a transparent website with an open algorithm + known failed attacks. If openness actually possible, we can never convince each other ;-) Commented Feb 14, 2016 at 21:26
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@CiroSantilli六四事件法轮功包卓轩 I'm completely with you. But then there is moderated site content (this is not the place) and responsible disclosure (debatable here, I don't know the ins and outs of the offsensive and defensive parts here)– seheCommented Feb 14, 2016 at 21:35
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@sehe I think it might be pertinent: "How easy is it to “farm” reputation?" Answer: we don't know, it's a black box. But this script can help you reverse engineer it / find out. If it is acceptable or not to post such links here, that would make for a nice meta question ;-) (but could draw more attention to that script >:-) ) Commented Feb 14, 2016 at 21:38
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5@CiroSantilli六四事件法轮功包卓轩: you do realise that anyone caught using your methods is going to have to face serious consequences, right? That includes you yourself. We take voting fraud very seriously, by whatever means.– Martijn Pieters ModCommented Feb 15, 2016 at 10:33
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1@CiroSantilli六四事件法轮功包卓轩: let me suffice to say that if I see any odd behaviour on the site you'll be the first to get my undivided attention.– Martijn Pieters ModCommented Feb 15, 2016 at 10:55
Stack Overflow has some automated scripts to detect and prevent abuses. Reputation should be given only for those who deserve it to keep other users motivated to contribute.
Usually, those who create sock puppets to farm reputation use this method because they have poor skills and can't earn reputation by their own merit. This makes them easier to detect because they leave a trace of bad content.
If someone creates sock puppets that post quality content and only upvote the main account once or twice (i.e., the abuse is very small), it's somewhat harder to detect. However, if it's quality content, we have this famous XKCD comic to think on:
PS: I don't support sock puppets in any way. Just want to emphasize that I believe that sock puppets that posts quality content are harder to identify and causes less damage.
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1But what will you do when real users throw epic fits about their contributions being downvoted and rated as "not constructive"?– Cody Gray ModCommented Feb 14, 2016 at 17:13
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1Say "We can't do anything about that years-old question because we abolished 'not constructive' years ago." It was replaced with "primarily opinion-based", which means roughly the same thing (that it meets the "don't ask" criteria) but is easier for new users to understand. Commented Feb 14, 2016 at 20:46
I used to put a similar question on SO some years ago with some "suggestions" of possible frauds. I lost over night 200 points on downvoting over night and finally the question was removed :-)
Actually, someone from SO even bothered to comment some of "my suggestions". They wrote, SO detects some upvoting patterns (e.g. if two persons upvote each other all the time)
I think, what SO is concerned is keeping SO serious, so the people continue input their knowledge in the system. If the frauds are not so obvious and the questions the "fraudster" puts are unique and interesting - SO wouldn't care.
But why to care about the reputation so much? The most of my colleges only use SO for look-up. They use SO many times without bothering to create an account. One even told, at their company having an account on SO is considered as a negative thing - because the people may spend the time answering the questions there not for work but for their ego.
I just laughed a lot when I found this question. Stack Overflow is not like a game for going and farming your coin. Also it is just a place for developers or whoever can help each other by sharing their knowledge and experience on the matter stated in the question.
Just try answer when you know your answer does really work and help others. Reputation mean nothing; what is earning is a thanks and good feeling.
However, to earn reputation (to farm, haha), you have to participate more often.
- Reputation less than a thousand can help edit to improve other questions or answers. You will earn a few reputation.
- Be the first to answer a question. (Make sure your answer does help.)
- Participate in the comment section and improve your answer as better as you can.
- Ask good questions.
- Well-designed questions and answers will attract readers.
- Learn more and continue to ask or answer if it is helpful.
- You can ask and answer your own post. (But it does not mean to do it all the time. Unless you think it helps others, and others will help to share a better solution on your matter.)
Never answer if you don't know, else you will attract more downvotes. Oh, whenever you downvote other answers, think clearly because it will reduce your own reputation too.
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2Downvoting questions does not cost reputation points. Commented Apr 27, 2019 at 8:18
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Ah, yes. Only downvoting answer cost reputation. stackoverflow.com/help/privileges/vote-down. I edited my post. Thanks Commented Apr 27, 2019 at 13:30
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Join group chats.
- no? Only main site contributions count towards rep, chat doesn't help with that. Unless you count a concealed voting ring, but that isn't specifically good...– Zoe - Save the data dump ModCommented Apr 27, 2019 at 14:32
Stack Overflow reputation and being a micro celebrity
by @JonSkeet (codeblog.jonskeet.uk/2009/01/15/…)