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(This question/request is a follow-up to "Bootstrap tags revisited" - it is not a dupe!)

The terribly ambiguous tag has caused a lot of headache, having been used for everything from and over to and , of which only the last was legitimate use.

"Bootstrap tags revisited" has been posted early '14, and no action followed it for one and a half years, until I took it upon myself to just start with burnination, since the amount of upvotes on that question was pretty high - after two months and 3'000 edits from my side, the tag was finally gone, and I suggested to blacklist it.

That suggestion was questioned (which is a good thing):

I don't think burninate is the right term here because you would want to keep bootstrap on the questions that actually represent the term bootstrap which has nothing to do with the responsive framework.

But I've taken a screenshot of the newest bootstrap questions at a time when the tag existed.
Judge for yourselves.

It has been re-created at least four times so far, and always gathered at least 20 questions within 24 hours.
So I'd like to make the blacklist suggestion an official request.


TL;DR:

is a massively misunderstood and abused tag that keeps being re-created.
Can it be blacklisted, pretty please?

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    Perhaps Give [bootstrap] the boot?
    – Pekka
    Commented Nov 10, 2015 at 23:10
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    You should put a parental warning on that image... I will have nightmares :/
    – Braiam
    Commented Nov 10, 2015 at 23:16
  • I'm with @Pekka웃, provide a pun with tag burination requests. Commented Nov 10, 2015 at 23:17
  • @πάνταῥεῖ It has been burninate already, it's a blacklist request. And I like "give it the boot", but I feel like it doesn't quite cut "sending it to hell for all eternity".
    – Siguza
    Commented Nov 10, 2015 at 23:18
  • If anyone manages to come up with a good pun that in some way involves nuclear explosions, fire, hell, demons, fire, black holes, antimatter, fire, or more fire, feel free to edit the title.
    – Siguza
    Commented Nov 10, 2015 at 23:24
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    How about: Send [bootstrap]'s sole to Beelzebub's pit.
    – theB
    Commented Nov 10, 2015 at 23:29
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    The current title has been officially deemed punny enough. Your request will now be considered by the powers that be.
    – Pekka
    Commented Nov 10, 2015 at 23:35
  • The problem here isn't cataloguing but the end user, the end user will keep reusing bootstrap tag for anything and everything, this is why SO needs to change their db schema to accommodate do not use tags
    – Sammaye
    Commented Nov 11, 2015 at 12:05
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    It sounds like it's aboot time.
    – theMayer
    Commented Nov 11, 2015 at 13:12
  • In way your question is linked to this one meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/298289/…
    – Sammaye
    Commented Nov 11, 2015 at 14:48

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Attempting to use this tag will now produce an error:

The 'bootstrap tag is not allowed. ...

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    This may backfire if The Great Outdoors decide to burninate the [shoelaces] tag.
    – user3717023
    Commented Jan 27, 2016 at 18:58
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    Now I'm curious: Has there ever been a question on this site asking about the actual leather straps?
    – Siguza
    Commented Jan 27, 2016 at 19:03
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    I went to the bootstrap tag to find out, @Siguza, but...
    – Shog9
    Commented Jan 27, 2016 at 19:09
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OP, I looked at the screenshot you provided and the majority looks like they're referring to the Bootstrap framework formerly known as Twitter Bootstrap. To blacklist the bootstrap tag wouldn't really solve anything, the next tag which would be abused would be bootstrap-framework which could still end up having questions related to some of the other tags which you stated in the OP (such as android-bootstrap and statistics-bootstrap).

I could understand blacklisting the bootstrap tag years ago when the framework was known as Twitter Bootstrap as the twitter-bootstrap tag could have been used instead then but since Bootstrap is the official name of the framework, I don't think it would be a good idea to blacklist it.

As each day passes more and more people are becoming aware of Bootstrap and probably in the near future you'll find new web developers might end up never knowing it was formerly known as Twitter Bootstrap.

When comparing bootstrap tag to other frameworks like Django or Ruby on Rails, those frameworks aren't known on Stack Overflow as django-framework or ruby-on-rails-framework. The most commonly known frameworks deserve their own tag with no suffix after it.

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  • If you down vote my post, could you comment and let me know what you disagree with? Thanks people Commented Nov 22, 2015 at 3:11
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    Django and RoR are not, so far as I know, at all ambiguous in practice; there's only one Django anyone is at all likely to care about. This is very definitely not the case for Bootstrap; the entire premise of this discussion is that there are multiple perfectly reasonable meanings of bootstrap that are being muddled. Tag naming doesn't need to be "fair"; it needs to be useful. Commented Nov 22, 2015 at 3:20
  • @NathanTuggy yes there are multiple definitions of bootstrap but the one referred to in most developing terms is usually in reference to the Bootstrap framework. Blacklisting the tag for the most popular front end framework would just raise confusion, not lower it. Bootstrapping is different and it should have it's own tag. Commented Nov 22, 2015 at 3:58
  • Solution: write actual code instead of using Twitter Bootstrap.
    – bjb568
    Commented Jan 26, 2016 at 9:59
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What I think is needed is 2 tags which are clearly distinct, and which will both show, so they can be compared, when a person starts to type "bootstrap"

My suggestions are:

  • bootstrap-framework
  • bootstrapping-computer-startup
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    “bootstrapping” isn’t exclusive to “computer startup”.
    – Ry- Mod
    Commented Nov 12, 2015 at 3:32
  • Are you suggesting a 3rd tag? By all means, put me out of my mystery ....
    – Stewart
    Commented Nov 12, 2015 at 8:40
  • Don’t take it that way. Meta is for suggestions. People can disagree with those suggestions, which is what the voting system represents.
    – Ry- Mod
    Commented Nov 12, 2015 at 10:36
  • Fair enough. But what else does bootstrapping refer to?
    – Stewart
    Commented Nov 12, 2015 at 10:39
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    Wiktionary has the other common definition as “to compile the tools that will be used to compile the rest of the system or program” (en.wiktionary.org/wiki/bootstrap#English), but it’s used in a similar manner to refer to the… pre-startup? of all sorts of software. So why not just bootstrapping?
    – Ry- Mod
    Commented Nov 12, 2015 at 10:48
  • If that's clear enough, sure. The point of my suggestion was clarity, so that junior web designers [or whoever] won't get confused.
    – Stewart
    Commented Nov 12, 2015 at 10:59

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