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Discussions require immediate moderation tooling, rep requirements and rate limiting

As of last night (between 19:00 and 21:00 UTC 07 January 2024) the discussion feature has started to be flooded with spam. Prior to that time, there were maybe 250~ posts on the Discussions Page, there are now ~1,400!

The problem here is due to several contributors:

  1. Poor/non-existant moderation tools for curators
  2. No minimum rep requirement to post in Discussions
  3. No rate limits on posts on Discussions, even for 1 rep users (exhibit A)

We know that moderation tooling is bad on the Discussions feature, but now it's being heavily abused by the parties that we knew would abuse it. There are too many posts for the community to flag at this point, and in truth, the volume in short periods of time is too (flagging 2-3 posts a minute is not sustainable, especially when red-flags don't exist).

Stack Overflow needs to address this immediately; the feature is now completely useless to anyone, as you can't find any content due to the volume of spam.

I suggest that a reputation requirement to post in discussions is implemented with immediate effect; this will stop the spam for new accounts (and new users posting discussions instead of questions). It doesn't have to be high, 15+ would be "enough" to counter the spammers seen here (who are all 1 rep users).

I also suggest that rate limiting is implemented (I've no idea why it isn't, in truth), which was suggested previously, Please implement a rate-limit for discussions, when a smaller spam campaign occurred. This should likely be the same as for posting content that isn't a discussion.

Moderation tools are still a must, and they are overdue as well. If spam flags were handled properly, and Charcoal works with Discussions (not sure if it does), the damage would minimal.

Right now, instead, even with 50 posts shown on a page, you won't find a discussion until you get to page 26 of 29... On the default of 15 posts a page, you have to go to page 86 of 95.

In the almost 2 hours since this post was made, there are now over 1,600 posts, so (based on a very small sample set) that's likely over 150 spam posts are being generated an hour, which is probably close to 3 posts a minute.


I want to bring attention to that although a CM (or several) are now working through the problem in terms of dealing with the posts, this is not a solution. The solution is still to put a stop in place; having a dedicated CM to do this work is awaste of resources when the tooling itself doesn't exist, and the stop(s) non-existant. They are fighting a losing battle. This only serves to lower the already understaffed team's resources, and not fixing the root problem is not fair to them, or the community.

In less than 24 hours well over 2,000 posts were generated by AI/bots, likely meaning that there were (at some points) significantly more than 100 posts an hour generated; that is not an small amount of work for an individual.

Thom A
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