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The salient points are in the updated original post, but some warrant elaboration; also, a technological solution is proposed, and some points made in Karl Knechtel's answer are addressed.


  • The (possibly inexperienced) asker's perspective:

    • They get automatically notified:

      • when someone comments on their question.
      • when an answer is posted.
      • when responded to in a comment left on a specific answers - unless interfered with
    • This should be enough:

      • It is unreasonable to expect everyone - especially inexperienced and occasional users - to even know about the 'Follow' feature.
      • More importantly, having to opt-in to something that should and does normally occur by default should not be necessary.
      • Even opting in may be undesirable, given the potential for a flood of unwanted notifications - such as due to incidental edits.
  • To spell out my workflow in more detail:

    • A follow-up question / request for clarification is posted in a comment, typically, but not necessarily, by the asker.

    • IF AND ONLY IF addressing the comment warrants improving the answer generally, I do so, and leave a @-targeted "Please see my updated" comment.

    • Unless interfered with due to premature deletion, this more often than not works out to everyone's satisfaction:

      • The asker is notified, and directly or indirectly indicates that their question has been addressed: indirectly by accepting the answer, or directly by confirming in another comment. (There may be a back-and-forth before reaching that point, but that is incidental - eventually, cleanup can and should occur.)

        • Even if there is no signal from the asker, I often revisit answers and if I see that the asker can be assumed to have seen my comment, I proceed to cleanup as described next.
      • At that point comments can be cleaned up, and it is certainly what I do personally: I remove mine, and I flag the asker's as "no longer needed".

    • If interfered with, as stated in the original post, the asker may never learn that their question has been answered, and a confusing comment is left behind - the net effect is more noise.

      • Also, given that an answer then won't be accepted, an important signal to future readers is lost. And acceptance is an important signal, especially initially and even longer-term in question with few views.
    • If the interference extends to also removing the asker's original comment, there won't be noise - but the asker still won't learn of the potential resolution, and there will still be no accepted-answer signal.

The above workflow is not for everyone, as it is time-consuming, so I suggest a technological solution:

  • Provide a new flag - available to the post owner only - labeled something like this:

    • "No longer needed and notify the commenter that their comment has been addressed in an update to the answer."
  • The flag would act as follows:

    • As with current "No longer needed" flags, a moderator would have to agree in order to get the comment removed.

    • Irrespective of whether removal is approved, a notification is sent to the commenter using a canned message, something like:

      • "You have posted a comment at <clickable link>, and the post owner has indicated that they have addressed your comment in an update to the question."

      • To be clear, this notification would occur behind the scenes, so that not even temporary noise in the comments is created.


To address your answer, Karl (this won't be warm and fuzzy either, but let me stress again that I appreciated your answer and the effort you put into it):

To me, it exhibits the following fallacies:

  • False dichotomy:

    • Pitting the individual against the community: In response to my saying that it is vital that the asker be notified of a response:

      • No, it really isn't. It's not even the slightest bit important here.

    • This is not an either-or situation, and, perhaps needless to say, the individual matters; as argued above, everyone has a reasonable expectation of being notified by default when responded to in a comment, especially when they're directly addressed.

  • Straw man arguments:

    • Arguing that SO isn't a discussion forum, despite the fact that my workflow is the very opposite of treating it as such and is serving to not make it devolve into that, by reducing comment noise long-term - except if the workflow is inappropriately interfered with, which is the issue at hand.

    • Needlessly arguing for the following, given that it was explicitly stated (albeit differently worded) as a premise of my issue ([if the comment "warrants a response of general interest (as opposed to an incidental, ephemeral response)").

    • Answer content should only be customized insofar as the asker's phrasing represents a typical misconception [...]

    • To spell it out unequivocally: the updates to my answers in question are designed to be of general interest and thereby also of interest to the specific asker (which is a given), so they would want to know.

  • (Inverse) Reductio ad absurdum:

    • When your arguments about comments ("there is no reasonable expectation that [an] ordinary [user] sees any kind of user-targeted, meta-level message, ever") are brought to their logical conclusion, there shouldn't even be a commenting feature.
  • Argument from authority:

    • With phrases such as the ones quoted below, you're portraying yourself as an authority qualified to adjudicate such matters.

    • I'm a little surprised to find myself explaining most of the following to someone with a 6-digit reputation score

    • doesn't necessarily result in understanding what we want the site to be.

    • I don't want to give the impression of berating you, as I sometimes do with other experienced users on Meta.

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