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Why are a lot of users (including moderators) upset about where SO is going?

"It's time for us to cut our losses and move on...Jeff Atwood's dream is dead. Our dream is dead. It was not a natural death, but a drawn-out starvation and deprivation, possibly the most cynical way to kill something." - Ian Kemp Source

"No one likes waiting for glaciers to calve, but that's mostly what we've been relegated to." and "The Stack Overflow I wish to build and participate in is no longer supported." - Makoto Source Source

"I guess I can stop holding my breath for the Stack Overflow that I knew and loved to return. This isn't the site that I joined, helped build, and loved for so many years. It's no longer a site that I am proud to be associated with." and "I feel duped, taken advantage of, and embarrassed about my association with this platform." - Cody Gray Source Source

"Hypothesis: SE no longer values its veteran users. We have already produced all the content that matters. Now they are focused on fixing their image by appeasing the vampires and withholding the tools needed for site curation." - Mysticial Source

"There is no doubt we've stopped making changes for core users and your observations about how that's gotten worse ring true to me." - Jon Ericson Source

"SE employees hasn't stopped reading or interacting with meta because people are uncivil, they're said to have done so because SO is "negative". So apparently putting forth criticism in a civil manner is unacceptable to them. They appear to have a problem with what is being said, not how it's being said." - Servy Source

"If the solution to "beginners are not welcome" ends up being "experts are not welcome" then it is game over. I resisted it for years, too, but a separate, beginner focused stack overflow (with beginner oriented rules, and special beginner tooling) feels inevitable to me at this point if the site wants to survive." - the one and only Jeff Atwood Source


#Dang!

The majority of these users are ones that I've grown to trust and respect over my time quietly reading in the background on MSO, and they seem rather upset.

For the life of me, though, I can't find more than one or two examples of the actions from the SO company that are so (frankly) despised. Where are the rest?

Essentially, I see that lots of people are upset. Why?

In defense of this question not being a dupe: Yes, this will likely rehash some of the points discussed in Makoto's post. But -- (and lol, this is my first meta post; I could be waaay off) I feel like I'm trying to drink from a firehose with 95% choclate syrup. There's plenty of water, but it isn't I dunno consolidated. Easy to isolate and examine. Succinct. In one location where I as an inexperienced new user can breathe and find out for myself what's going on without being the next Agatha Christie (or at least a good data visualist).

And as I said to Yvette - if nothing else, the multiple dupe targets for my q will help people out.


I'm not trying to stir up the pot and make people upset all over again. Hopefully this post does not degenerate into a debate. There's a time and place for that, but that's not the point of this post. I just want to know (and I suspect a lot of "little people" like myself want to know) exactly why these fairly popular users are upset so that I can evaluate what's going on for myself.

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