It's 2024. I visited 3 pages of answers. None contains the buzzword "copyright".

I'm just trying to contribute in the first message of this thread, to try to add a mention that this is not "just" a community policy about being precise or not; the ban reasons should also stress more about being a needed *moral* and *legal* proactive measure, to avoid additional plagiarisms and copyright infringements.

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## LLMs causes extra Copyright and Credit Nightmares

Popular large language models are like Pandora's pots, trained over millions and millions of obscure copyrighted materials, and this can surely cause extra potential **copyright violations** and **plagiarism** that can be tricky to be proactively identified, to assure long life to the Stack Exchange network, distant from boring extra lawsuits and extra mass "content takedown" requests.

### Because LLMs Do Not Give Authorship Credits

Even taking copyright apart; popular LLMs do not mention the author, so they do not respect moral rights, and they do not fulfill our sane referencing standards.

https://meta.stackexchange.com/help/referencing

#### ...for Technical Reasons

No known popular large language model was currently designed to give you the original sources. A "generic human" can tell you who taught to sum 1 plus 1: they can find their early Math school book and find out which page of that book says so. LLMs, instead, are trained differently, and cannot just give references in the expected way.

Some advanced LLMs acts _like_ are able to give you references, but if you pay attention, even these are "just" capable to share "further information", and only _after_ whatever text is generated (e.g. Microsoft Copilot, ...).

#### ...for Political Reasons

Moreover, popular LLMs usually do not even share the original dataset on their website (and this is a political issue, not a technical issue; as the dataset can be shared in whatever moment, especially from organizations that have "Open" and "AI" in their official name).

Indeed this practice of closing the dataset does not simplify the backward work of finding the right credit to a generated text.

### Because we are supposed to release in CC BY-SA 4.0

Premising that, as I hope everyone already noted, in every single page of the Stack Exchange Network, there is this phrase at the footer of the website:

>  Site design / logo © 2024 Stack Exchange Inc; user contributions licensed under [CC BY-SA][1].

Please take 60 seconds to read this page, if it's your first time:

https://stackoverflow.com/help/licensing

It just means that new contents must be covered by these terms:

https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/

(Again please take additional 60 seconds to read this ↑)

Also note that there is not any "unless otherwise noted" in the above SE copyright terms.

## TL;DR

Both the Stack Exchange Inc. and the SE community have probably no sufficient time to fight this additional copyright risk, and moral risks, of giving no sufficient credits to original content authors.

The potentially high benefits do not outweigh the potentially very very very high risks, especially without enforcing an extra care and awareness.

## Next Steps?

1. **SE policy lacks an "unless otherwise noted"**
    - At the moment the [copyright terms of SE][1] does not mention the phrase "unless otherwise noted". That phrase is quite useful, since our planet has billions of contents under thousands of licenses, and very often answers are like "*«bla bla bla» `very long snippet` citation1 citation2 citation3*" and indeed this kind of answers are not content under CC BY-SA 4.0, but are instead contents released under the terms of the upstream copyright holder. Usually, official code snippets are pasted here on Stack Overflow as answer but just as mention, to quickly find that upstream documentation. So indeed, with or without AI-generated contents, a global "unless otherwise noted" would probably help in quoting external contents (ChatGPT included I guess...).
2. **Evaluate "fair use" policies**
    - If you know what you are doing, small use of proprietary sources can be used even if they are "all rights reserved". But, you must clarify that the content is not yours, and you should clarify the reasons why you believe that the content can be shared in "fair use". Note that the [Wikipedia community has interesting "fair use" policies][2]. Instead the community of [Wikimedia Commons does not generally include contents in fair use][3]. But clarifying such policy in our website may be necessary, sooner or later, with ad without AI; and with and without AI contents that are assumed under "all rights reserved" as default.
3. **Evaluate big disclaimers about AI-generated contents**
    - Basically stuff like https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:PD-algorithm that it's currently embedded in some multimedia files, to say that «*This file is in the public domain because it is the work of a computer algorithm or artificial intelligence and does not contain sufficient human authorship to support a copyright claim.* *The United Kingdom and Hong Kong provide a limited term of copyright protection for computer-generated works of 50 years from creation.* [1][4] [2][5]».

So, I think the current ban is OK. Before even discussing a re-activation, we should at least afford the above points, to improve the legal safe space for editors but also readers, and use this kind of tools in a legal way.

  [1]: https://stackoverflow.com/help/licensing
  [2]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Fair_use/Fair_use_rationale
  [3]: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Fair_use
  [4]: https://www.gov.uk/government/consultations/artificial-intelligence-and-intellectual-property-call-for-views/artificial-intelligence-call-for-views-copyright-and-related-rights
  [5]: https://www.elegislation.gov.hk/hk/cap528!en?xpid=ID_1438403328351_003&INDEX_CS=N