> on average the answers on [late] closed questions seem better than on open questions How did you measure that? Implicitly, by votes, I gather, which isn't quite right. Voting patterns correlate to question closure in ways that don't necessarily indicate useful answers. I have a hunch that a lot of late-closed questions are somewhat subjective questions, which Stack Overflow has gradually become less tolerant to. There are also popular duplicates, which get answered quickly and then closed much later when someone does a cleanup in a particular tag. ---- Regarding closure, I think it's a fundamental aspect of Stack Exchange. A site dedicated to a topic but without closure reminds me of Usenet. Once Usenet became popular¹, it became more and more common for a group to be overwhelmed with off-topic discussion. On Usenet, the only defense against off-topic content is a personal kill file. On Stack Exchange without closure, downvotes would allow sharing the load of sorting the wheat from the chaff. But voting is inferior, because it isn't absolute. When a question is closed, it's closed; a score-based killfile would have to use different thresholds for different combinations of tags. Thus removing closure would be a **disservice to readers**. Removing closure would also be a **disservice to answerers**, and thence indirectly to readers. If answerers waste their time answering off-topic and unclear questions where nobody would find them, that's fewer answers that would be on clear, findable questions. Answering a question that's unclear is a waste of time because future searchers will glance at the question, fail to understand it and skip without reading the answer that might have helped them. Answering a question that's unclear or too broad is a waste of time because future searchers will glance at the question, not see how it relates to their problem and skip. Answering an off-topic question is a waste of time because future searchers won't be looking here for an answer. Answers on off-topic questions are also dangerous because the votes are less likely to reflect expertise in the topic. If an answer is worth keeping, edit the question to make it suitable and reopen it. Closing the question makes it clear that the question is **unsuitable in its present state**; reopening makes it clear that it is. The score cannot give such a clear indication. Removing closure would also be a **disservice to askers**. Sure, some askers like to whine at the slightest perceived offense, but please don't forget that some askers are here to get answers. I could care less about the whiners and I want the ones who genuinely want answers to get them; I would not participate on Stack Overflow if I didn't share this sentiment with the SO community². For askers who want answers, leaving a question open when we know they're unlikely to get useful answers gives them false hopes, and fails to convey the message that they **could and should do something** to improve it. (Yes, people don't read the guidance, but I have little sympathy for people who don't read the guidance, and anyway you just can't succeed with these people. There is probably still room to improve this guidance though, as closure can be a bit daunting when you meet it for the first time.) ¹ <sub> Sep. 1993 </sub> ² <sub> I feel that this sentiment is less and less shared; more on this later. </sub> ---- Regarding [the blog post you cite](http://www.embeddedrelated.com/showarticle/741.php), it makes some good points, some bad. In particular, it correctly identifies two goals of Stack Overflow that do not always align: the short-term goal of answering someone's question, and the long-term goal of being a searchable repository of answers. Where it goes wrong is that it presents closure as used today on Stack Overflow as being strongly biased towards the long-term goal at the detriment of the short-term goal. Closure matters for both goals. It helps people get answers now by not making answerers waste time on questions not worth answering, and informing askers when they need to improve their question. It helps people who search answers later by indicating which questions are likely to have worthwhile answers. Historically, there was a period³ during which more closures were pushed to get rid of old questions which no longer met current standards. Calling this “harassment” of askers and picturing closers as “nazis” is patently ridiculous — we're talking about old questions, which are not a priority for the asker any longer, even if it's still around. Of late, closure has evolved on Stack Overflow. This is not a new thing but I feel that it has recently become the dominant trend. There is indeed a raise in the “no soup for you” aspect of closure. But this is not at all about long-term quality! On the contrary, it's all about askers jumping through the hoops that are expected of them. [Guidance from the top](http://meta.stackexchange.com/questions/210840/should-stack-overflow-and-stack-exchange-in-general-be-awarding-as-for-effor/210868#210868) emphasizes that what matters is that questions be answerable and that it's the results that matter and not the goal. And yet the issue comes up [again](https://meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/257868/can-we-please-have-the-lacks-minimal-understanding-close-reason-back) [and](https://meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/260828/do-we-need-a-close-reason-for-zero-effort-questions) [again](https://meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/274630/should-we-add-a-do-my-work-for-me-close-reason) of preventing questions not because they wouldn't produce useful answers, but because they do not show effort. Closure is more and more working against the long-term goal, and with dubious effectiveness on the short-term goal. (I can't find the link now, but it's sometimes reached ridiculous height, where questions intended to be a canonical question on a frequently recurring topic are closed because the question focuses on the problem and does not demonstrate effort to solve it.) Yet getting rid of closure would not solve this problem. It is a social problem, not a technical problem: motivations for closure have changed but the tools haven't changed. Getting rid of closure would help in that useful but non-soup-worthy questions could still be answered, but it wouldn't solve the problem that these questions would be as heavily downvoted as they are today if not more, hence filtered off and so would rarely reach potential answerers. ³ <sub> I think roughly 2011–2013, but I didn't check the dates while writing this post. </sub>