Questions tagged [welcoming]

Questions related to the Stack Overflow aims of becoming more "welcoming" to newer users. Use this for discussions about potential policy changes, and not to deal with specific incidents (except as mentioned as part of broader discussions).

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Welcoming Formalities vs Noise-free Conciseness

In reflection of the new Code of Conduct, would allowing a "hi" in questions (and a "thank you" in comments) help create a welcoming atmosphere? I've had such type of wordings either removed, or not ...
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Does the new "unfriendly" flag have negative consequences for flagged users?

Multiple commenters at A comment is unneeded and arguably unfriendly - how to flag it? seem to be of the view that having several of the new "unfriendly or unkind" flags raised on your comments will ...
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A comment is unneeded and arguably unfriendly - how to flag it?

I came across this comment today on a (now well-answered) front-end web development question - specifically about how to automatically number headings with JavaScript or CSS: As a hint: Using js ...
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Pending unfriendly flags missing from main flag history page [closed]

I just raised my first "unfriendly" flag. It shows up in my comment flag history, at https://stackoverflow.com/users/flag-summary/1709587?group=4... ... but it's missing from my main flag history at ...
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What happens when I flag an unwelcoming comment in a blatantly poor question?

Say that I flagged an unwelcoming comment in a blatantly poor question and a moderator agreed - what next? I would like to roughly figure how things would typically go after my flag is handled (I ...
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Should we say "vandalizing" to refer to defaced content?

Yesterday, I noticed that one of the non-salvageable questions I had contributed towards closure was edited to no longer include its original content (it was something along the lines of "I just ...
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Should we stop commenting altogether?

Yes, that's a pretentious title. I love commenting. I'm on my way to having posted 15,000 comments. I want to help people improve their question so it won't be closed, or help them find a duplicate ...
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Can we have some site approved canned comments to match the new CoC and welcoming?

There's so much confusion and debate over what is welcoming and what is expected of users with the Code of Conduct changing. There's a fine line we step between being frank in our discourse and what ...
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What if they COULD google their question in 5 seconds?

One example from the revised Code of Conduct of a comment that will now be considered "rude" is "You could google this in 5 seconds." Indeed, my usual comment for cases like this is the relatively ...
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Was I not welcoming enough?

We had funny situation this day ... it's regarding this question SQL: Why doesn't my trigger work? Fully unclear question, more not needed information and less needed ones ... you can see what ...
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A better way to make Stack Overflow more welcoming?

As I've read through recent discussions like Is this really what we should consider "unwelcoming"? and Feedback on the Comment Classifier blog post, I've started to notice a theme. There are ...
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With a userbase as diverse as Stack Overflow's, how will we arrive at an actionable definition of "unwelcoming"?

So on Mark Amery's Feedback post about the newest blog post, I wrote this comment: If you're gonna use any user input to define "unwelcoming" y'all are going to be in for a rough time. The ...
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Notice when downvoting a new users question

So recently, we've been seeing a lot of discussion around Stack Overflow not being very welcoming. There are two questions that proposed an approach to handle downvotes on new users, both massively ...
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Feedback on the Comment Classifier blog post

Julia Silge and Jason Punyon just posted Welcome Wagon: Classifying Comments on Stack Overflow. There doesn't seem to be a dedicated post for giving feedback on it, so I thought I'd post my own. I ...
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What should we do if users don't listen to our comments pointing out severe flaws?

In the most recent welcoming blog about comment evaluation, something caught my eye. In the sample unwelcoming comments, 3 out of 5 comments are seemingly posted by users who (almost surely, judging ...
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Is this really what we should consider "unwelcoming"?

Quoting from today's blog post "Welcome Wagon: Classifying Comments on Stack Overflow": According to those of us deeply involved here and familiar with Stack Overflow, about 7% of comments on Stack ...
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Reworking the question ban

(Blog Post) - "Stack Overflow Isn't Very Welcoming. It's Time for That to Change." Post bans are arguably the least-welcoming mechanics of Stack Overflow. They work in theory but not in practice. ...
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Codifying the Scope: Differentiate between Teaching and Helping on Stack Overflow

I'd like to see the loop closed on what we need to do with the site's cultural perception of "niceness", and eliminate any ambiguity. While I understand that there are some things which will be ...
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What makes a question "low quality"?

This is relating to the "StackOverflow is unwelcoming" debate going on. Someone on this question within meta.stackexchange said: [I]n the end it boils down to the quality of the post, not the ...
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Now that we can detect "Snark," what are we planning to do with it?

Yesterday a new update showed up on the Stack Overflow blog: Rolling out the Welcome Wagon: June Update. Among the updates of things that are marked as Done, one really caught my eye: Built an “...
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Rewarding users for being kind/helpful

This is expanding off the recent discussions over Stack Overflow users being notoriously unfriendly - Occasionally I'll see a bad question from a new user, but instead of a commenter down-voting or ...
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Petition Purpose: Disclaimer in the certain Stack Overflow blog post

This is a purpose of a petition to the Stack Overflow team or Jay Hanlon personally about the now famous/infamous blog post. Disregarding the disagreement about the point of views and some ...
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Learning the art of not replying - how to be more welcoming

We're still adjusting to the upheavals and site examination since Jay Hanlon's "Stack Overflow Isn’t Very Welcoming" blog. There's some confusion about what is rude or polite and a moving focus on ...
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Mentor & encourage new users? Really?

I got this question on the review queues. I can clearly see that the question should be closed, but... We've just been told that we should be nicer to new users. This post was by a newbie with a rep ...
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Are there trends towards being "more welcoming"?

Obviously it is a bit early to ask, but still I am wondering if "things" are already changing. I just used an enforced one-day cool down period to have a look around, and it seems to me that at least ...
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The "why have I been question banned" FAQ isn't very good at effecting a change in behavior

The situation Today I saw another one in the slew and endless torrent of meta questions about "why have I been question banned?". As usual, it was closed as a duplicate of this FAQ entry. ...
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Are we collectively wired to be 'rude'?

I respect and appreciate the attempts being made to make SO more 'friendly'. I certainly have felt unwelcome on more than one occasion. But honestly, I think it's a lost cause. The smartest people ...
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So this is what "feeling unwelcomed" actually looks like

In light of this and my most recent experience a few minutes ago I submit this post for discussion. To be extremely clear, I would never condone or excuse in the slightest those that are actually rude ...
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Does my guidance to a new member strike the tone SO is trying to achieve?

I've started down voting and commenting to provide friendly but firm guidance to new members. Here is an example from C# Closures in LINQ expressions: Welcome to StackOverflow. You will receive ...
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But seriously. How to be nice when trying to say the code is crap?

I came upon a question just now where the OP's code has serious errors which leads to problems, and the OP asks how to solve the problems. So far, so good, but after having the serious errors pointed ...
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Was there an uptick in comment flags after the "be nicer" blog post?

I'm curious - was there an uptick in the number of comment flags (especially rude/abusive flags) after the "be more welcoming" blog post? If so, has this put additional stress on moderators? ...
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Make comment flagging more public

As of May 2018 Stack Overflow has 9.1m visits per day and 8.8m users. There are 1.69m users with the ability to flag. 81% of all Stack Overflow users either don't know that flagging is possible or ...
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Addressing the highest friction point of seeming welcoming: heavily rate-limiting comments

I had thought about putting together a Medium blog for a response on what the actual Problem™ here on Stack Overflow was, and why there was this air of hostility, but every time I sat down to make ...
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Assimilation + Reciprocity + Answerable + Mulligan = Welcoming

This is about making FIXABLE questions a better experience for new community members. Nothing the the rest of this text should imply that you can fix the unfixable or make the unanswerable ...
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What would have made this interaction nicer for a beginner?

I recently came across this question (screenshot below for <10k members): https://stackoverflow.com/questions/50201354/c-how-to-search-data-in-a-linked-list-and-sort-it?noredirect=1 The title and ...
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"Prefer not to answer" in the Developer Survey Results 2018

I've been looking at the results of the latest developer survey showing Stack Overflow as a community of white Here again we see evidence for problems with diversity and inclusion. straight men ...
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Is Stack Overflow losing its guidelines concerning answering low-quality questions? [duplicate]

A couple of days ago, Jay Hanson published a blog post titled Stack Overflow Isn’t Very Welcoming. It’s Time for That to Change. Although I have several questions about things said in the post, this ...
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A Welcoming Change: What do we have to lose?

Several questions here on Meta these last few days have raised objections to Jay Hanlon's blog post, Stack Overflow Isn't Very Welcoming. It's Time for That To Change. Jay's post can be summarized ...
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The "contact us" link is hidden behind a "sign up" banner for people who don't have accounts

I was testing something in as an unregistered user and spotted that the "contact us" link is hidden behind the "sign up" banner: Can the link be moved to the top of the "Company" list? People shouldn'...
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What community actions is the "Welcoming" blog post advocating?

Situation I've noticed a common theme in discussions about the "Welcoming" blog post. That is a tendency of people (regardless of their views) to talk about the philosophy of the blog or the attitude ...
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Very Very Bad Question About an Exam... How to be polite to bad faith people

I read Jay Hanlon's blog post and I understand we should try to be nice to new users. I try to be nice to people in general. But this question: Can you help me with my python program assignment? is ...
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Changing new users' expectations of this site *before* they ask their question by requiring them to pass a test

The problem: Currently, to ask a question, a user has to tick a button at the bottom of a page of text: Nowhere am I told that Stack Overflow isn't a forum. At no point is it checked that I have ...
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How can we as a community put more of an emphasis on learning?

There has been a lot of talk recently about how we treat new users, prompted by a certain blog post. A lot of this discussion has centered around a false dichotomy of experienced users who care about ...
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"Don't do that" is not a constructive response

In the wake of the "SO is not very welcoming" blog post, I'd like to draw attention to another kind of comment that drives people away - at least, anecdotally. Let's take a look at a random question: ...
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What should the user community do about incivility on Stack Overflow?

Incivility on Stack Overflow is not a new topic. But apparently it's been given new life. So here's your chance to sound off on what we, as a community, can do about it. But first, some of my own ...
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Curation and cynicism: Or why Stack Overflow sometimes doesn't seem welcoming

There's been a lot of talk lately about the state of Stack Overflow, sparked by this blog entry that levies this charge Stack Overflow is intended to be an inclusive place where every programmer can ...
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Stack Overflow's Public Relations Mistake About "Welcoming" and How to Fix It by Implementing an Index of Examples as Reference Material

I read Jay Hanlon's post on Welcoming and, in spite of a number of problematic mistakes, I think I understand what Stack Overflow is trying to say, but I do not think they know how to say it. In fact, ...
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A Second Chance: Rework the Reopen System

In the wake of the famous blog post, I'd like to propose a rework of the reopen system. The problem: Poorly asked questions by newbies often get downvoted and closed. Sometimes, helpful users try to ...
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What exactly is the term "new-user" referring to?

In the current discussion of new-user experience, I found there is a serious ambiguity on the term new-user (or newbie, new-comer, etc.). new-user can refer to 2 very different groups: only new to ...
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Request: edit/clarify the "Stack Overflow Isn’t Very Welcoming" blog post

TL;DR I claim that several arguments made in the "Stack Overflow Isn’t Very Welcoming. It’s Time for That to Change. " blog post are ridden with serious flaws (naive assumptions about human ...