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Behold:

Since that's a generic word, I find this tag's existence problematic.

Aside from that, apparently it's being used for discussing a programming language called "Red" (site, Wikipedia) that is related to . Earliest question I can see is from 2010. Two questions last year, none so far this year... except for someone who literally referred to red things in the context of chroma subsampling.

I'd suggest

  1. Getting those language users to discuss a better tag name. I'd propose or (IDK what's customary, since exists)
  2. Retagging those questions or equivalent operation
  3. Maybe making unusable

What do you think?

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    "Since that's a generic word, I find this tag's existence problematic." I don't really feel like this holds weight either. "Rust" and "Python" are "generic" words, do you find the tags [rust] and [python] "problematic"?
    – Thom A
    Commented Aug 27 at 10:11
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    @ThomA we don't tend to talk about snakes or oxidisation in programming context. But mentioning colours is common.
    – VLAZ
    Commented Aug 27 at 10:12
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    Rust is also a reddish colour, @VLAZ . I'm sure I could find plenty of other examples of tags of "generic" words, those were just 2 that immediately popped into my head.
    – Thom A
    Commented Aug 27 at 10:12
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    What proportion of questions are mistagged i.e. using red as a colour? Commented Aug 27 at 10:13
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    I went through all questions tagged [red] and not any variation of [rebol]. I found only one which did not use "red" to refer to the language: why 'ed' also named 'red' in linux. I've removed the tag from it. I don't know whether there were previous misusages that were removed.
    – VLAZ
    Commented Aug 27 at 10:24
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    We even renamed the oracle tag recently for being ambiguous even though it had existed since the beginning of the site basically, so why are we discussing if this should be renamed or not? It's ambiguous or it is going to be ambiguous some day, it should be red-lang.
    – Gimby
    Commented Aug 27 at 12:04
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    my argument is that the tag itself is too generic to be useful. plenty of other generic tags were "handled" in some way that discourages/prevents their use. I think "red" simply falls in that same pattern. "python" and "rust" are good counterexamples because they, by their languages' popularity, are no longer generic. -- as for "oracle", I can see an argument for the company and its tech being split off because there are oracles in TCS/crypto. I wouldn't have an opinion on that either way, even if the decision hadn't been made already. Commented Aug 27 at 12:10
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    Hello! I am actively monitoring [red] tag, and I'd say a ratio of wrong uses is like 80% at least. Of these 90% times it was used as a color and was removed, and there were some cases, where it was about [node-red] visual dataflow tool. Commented Aug 27 at 12:37
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    The languages I think could have same problems - Go, C, R, F, D, Flow, Logo, Hack, Icon, Ring (from first 100 at TIOBE index) Commented Aug 27 at 21:39
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    @Sinatr "If I see a new tag, then I'd normally read its tooltip as a first action. I would not assume [red] is a simple color, so nothing needs to be done here, really." that only works if you're the only user who applies tags. Which is not the case. If it worked like this then the tags clearly marked as "DO NOT USE" would not be used. But they are. Clarifying the name of the tag is a crucial way to reduce their misapplication.
    – VLAZ
    Commented Aug 28 at 13:40
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    another fun example: ml is constantly being misapplied to questions involving machine-learning. mostly newbies do that. because they generally are unaware of or don't care about what a tag "should" be used and not used for. they just type things in that box because there is a box. from other sites I know that some newbies just pick a few tags from the top 5 suggested ones, regardless of meaning and applicability. Commented Aug 28 at 14:16
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    @Sinatr I don't understand what issue you have with the proposed rename to resort to snark.
    – VLAZ
    Commented Aug 28 at 14:23
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    The official site calls it Red Programming Language, the site url is red-lang.org, the social handle is @red_lang and the subreddit is /r/redlang. I don't see why disambiguating the tag to [red-lang] should be in any way controversial.
    – Robotnik
    Commented Aug 29 at 5:52
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    I appologize to all for my sarcasm. After checking tags and searching for "lang", "red", "green", "blue", "magenta", etc. I now agree that [red] needs to be changed and -lang or lang suffixes are ok. Any such suffix should prevent users from misusing this tag as a color tag.
    – Sinatr
    Commented Aug 29 at 8:09
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    @Robotnik I would invite you to post that as an answer, because that hits the nail on the head.
    – Gimby
    Commented Aug 29 at 14:45

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On advice, I'm moving my comment into an answer:


The official site calls it Red Programming Language, the site url is red-lang.org, the social handle is @red_lang and the subreddit is /r/redlang.

Disambiguating the tag to should not be controversial in any way.

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  • This is also what we've done in the past, IIRC, for common-word language tags.
    – TylerH
    Commented Sep 9 at 18:32

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