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Can we rename and to and ?

The organization has been renamed from Vaticle to TypeDB, which you can see in TypeDB LinkedIn and TypeDB GitHub org, and the company domain is fully renamed to typedb.com (and typeql.com redirects to it).

So, the brand "Vaticle" no longer exist, and the names "TypeDB" and "TypeQL" are now fully known for the TypeDB database and the TypeQL language, as also published in ACM this year: TypeQL: A Type-Theoretic & Polymorphic Query Language.

At this point, adding "vaticle-" prefix now causes confusions to many users (especially new ones).

N. B.: I am the creator of TypeDB & TypeQL.

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    Any takers for typedb-typedb and typedb-typeql ? Hey, I can't help it they named themselves after the product.
    – Gimby
    Commented Aug 13 at 12:52
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    typescript tag is not called microsoft-typescript @Gimby Commented Aug 13 at 13:31
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    @haikalpribadi: The goal is to avoid ambiguity. Since it previously was named vaticle-typedb that suggests that the namer may have thought that just typedb was too ambiguous. If it was too ambiguous then it might be too ambiguous now. Note that at the bottom of their webpage (typedb.com) it says © 2024 Vaticle Ltd. Vaticle™, TypeDB™ and TypeQL™ are trademarks of Vaticle Ltd so maybe we could just leave things the way they are. Commented Aug 13 at 14:04
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    History of the current tag names, for reference.
    – Ryan M Mod
    Commented Aug 13 at 14:35
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    This question is similar to: Updating product tags after a name change - Grakn + Graql. The answer explains why using [typedb] and [typeql] is not ideal.
    – M--
    Commented Aug 13 at 15:10
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    Because of ambiguity. And I don't think a company rebranding themselves counts as so much change in SO world.
    – M--
    Commented Aug 13 at 15:13
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    My last response; if one types [typedb], they (user) still get the relevant tags (and questions). IMO, a general name like that makes housekeeping harder for us (curators). It's OK if you feel otherwise and obviously are free to push for that change, I just don't agree with your proposal. Cheers.
    – M--
    Commented Aug 13 at 15:23
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    Understood, but your interests do not align 100% with ours. We also value clarity, but the consensus for tag names, like everything else, has evolved on this site based on hard experience. You can certainly look through same tag rename proposals here on meta to get an idea of where our concerns come from. And while trademarks should be a consideration, I don't think the volunteers here give much thought to IP issues during our curation. Someone else may decide to create a kablammo-typedb tag and then we'd have confusion between typedb and kablammo-typedb. Commented Aug 13 at 15:49
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    Well..., you are shooting in your own foot, by naming the Company like the Product... Don't you plan to develop new products in the future...? Then your own Customers will (again!) get confused about "TypeDB", not knowing anymore if you talk about one of your products or about the company... // Or rename the Product back to "Grakn", then we can use grakn or typedb-grakn for the tag name on 'SO', problem solved...! // "Grakn" + "Graql" were perfect names/tags (because non-generic like "typedb") for 'Google' and 'SO'... Don't rename your products and company every few years...
    – chivracq
    Commented Aug 13 at 17:21
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    @chivracq: We can assume the company guy knows what's best for his company. Commented Aug 13 at 17:41
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    @haikalpribadi Creating the tags is not possible, because they're already a synonyms of their vaticle- variants, so probably a moderator has to undo that first, and in this regard, just switch the synonym around, or even merge the tags.
    – Lino
    Commented Aug 13 at 17:48
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    Well, about MongoDB, only typing "mongo" both in 'Google' or 'SO' only yields results related to 'MongoDB', try the same with "type" or "typed", => absolutely nothing related to 'TypeDB'..., that's the problem... But "typedb" on 'SO' does correctly yield the only 2 relevant Tags, so your Users asking for the correct Tag(s) on 'SO' sounds a bit void to me. Maybe the Tag Excerpts for both Tags could be made a bit clearer, or you could educate your Users from your own Site to direct them to the correct Tags on 'SO'. // Or typedb-typedb from 'Gimby' is maybe not that bad as I first thought...
    – chivracq
    Commented Aug 13 at 18:10
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    When searching for "typedb" in various search engines the top results seem to only be about this so I guess it would probably be okay to not have a company name as a prefix for the tag. Commented Aug 13 at 18:35
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    @chivracq why is it possible for graphdb and objectdb? They are are short and general as typedb. In fact, [edgedb] does exist: stackoverflow.com/tags/edgedb/info If graphdb, objectdb, and as recent as edgedb can all get their names written simply, why can't typedb? Commented Aug 13 at 18:38
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    Right, but like, that's the point. it's a "type-theoretic database". If another company came along and created a similar product that is a "type-theoretic database", wouldn't it make more sense to have a tag that would describe both? Put another way, Why does business marketing (the company name) need to be in the tag at all? Of course, as a business you want people searching for your product, but this is an open community,
    – Kevin B
    Commented Aug 13 at 19:27

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