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As one of your newest moderators, I've been handling a bunch of not-an-answer flags. One NAA flag was for this answer:

The flag comment said that the link was broken. When reviewing the flag, I:

  1. Confirmed that the link was broken
  2. Decided that without the link markup, "In MySQL, you can create a limited user (create new user and grant limited access), which can only access certain table." would be an attempt to answer the question.
  3. Found a new link and edited it into the answer.
  4. Marked the flag as helpful without deleting the answer.

However, the flagger commented:

It's still just a link-only answer. Answers should contain the relevant code. If the link is removed, this is just a comment. It says right in How to Answer - Provide context for links implies that (e.g. code is the relevant part).

Is code required here for this to be considered more than a link-only answer?

I think this case is more similar to Should this answer deleted as link-only be undeleted? where the description (but no code) was enough to get the answer un-deleted. And less similar than to Link-and-link-description-only answer where the "description" with the link was all filler.

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    I will also point out, after looking at 100s of LO - NAA flags, there is some inconsistency in the way the LO - NAA flags are handled in general. I don't mean just by @StephenOsermiller, but by the community in general. So being a person who flags a lot of this type of answer, it's not always clear. Commented Mar 29 at 21:23
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    Your NAA flags tend to be harder to deal with than average. Most NAA flags are for "thx" and "me too" answers. Your flags are mostly for link-only where the link has varying levels of description around it. Commented Mar 29 at 21:52
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    That's probably true. I try to curate the quality of SO answers relevant to my python experience, so I may flag LQA / NAA on the harder side of the relevant meta documentation. I have a script for finding such answers, then manually evaluate them. Commented Mar 29 at 22:07
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    I have a lot of "helpful" LQA / NAA, and even given the relevant meta posts for guidance, I don't always get it right. Commented Mar 29 at 22:13
  • This answer was deleted as LO - NAA, and I don't really see how it's much different than the answer under discussion. Commented Mar 29 at 22:27
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    I'd say that that answer is worse, @TrentonMcKinney ; it's more saying "Write the solution yourself, or use an existing tool". The answer here, however, is saying that such a feature within the product exists, and tells you what that feature is called; what it lacks is an explanation of how to implement said feature.
    – Thom A
    Commented Mar 29 at 22:54
  • @ThomA even though the question does not specifically say it's for MySQL? The question text states SQL, and is given sql. The question is not clear about the server. Commented Mar 29 at 22:58
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    @TrentonMcKinney You are abusing NAA flag. You shouldn't use them to make moderators do the work, you could. If the link has gone bad, you can find the replacement. Plenty of those answers stand on their own without the link. Also if there is a closed question that is of no value, you can vote to delete it and you can go to SOCVR to ask for assistance in deleting. Flagging every answer there as NAA is not the way to do cleanup.
    – Dalija Prasnikar Mod
    Commented Mar 30 at 8:17
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    @TrentonMcKinney Also if you are going to mass digging through 14 years old answers, then you can at least put some effort and write appropriate comments, if you really feel they are needed, instead of canned ones that tell 20K+ users that when and if they get sufficient reputation they will be able to post comments.
    – Dalija Prasnikar Mod
    Commented Mar 30 at 8:20
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    @DalijaPrasnikar you can go to SOCVR to ask for assistance in deleting I didn’t have previous knowledge of SOCVR, but I just looked it up. Commented Mar 30 at 14:51
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    I once flagged an answer that read: "Use a <link>number table</link>", where the "number table" was a link detailing how to create number tables. It was rejected, as it contained the very minimum of what is considered an answer apparently. I didn't agree then, still on the fence now, but I've resigned to it. Basically, it put the notion "number table" in the mind of the questioner, which they could then further research.
    – TT.
    Commented Mar 31 at 16:34
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    (Most of the Stack Overflow jargon is covered by the glossary. SOCVR. Though not "LQA" and "LO". SIAs?) Commented Mar 31 at 19:46
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    LO is probably link-only. Commented Mar 31 at 19:51
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    @PeterMortensen Yes to both. LQA = Low-quality answer, LO = Link only. LQP = Low-quality posts (but not used here), VLQ = Very Low Quality (also not used here), NAA = Not an answer
    – TylerH
    Commented Apr 1 at 12:58
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    Regarding inconsistency - there is already an inconsistency in how the abbreviation "NAA" is interpreted by people. What is the truth? Does it mean "Not An Answer" (to this question) or "Not an Attempt to Answer" (any question). Ask two people, get two different replies. And that inconsistency exists on both the side of the people casting the flags and the people handling the flags.
    – Gimby
    Commented Apr 2 at 15:21

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No, code isn't required, but the answer does need to at least have enough information that the answer can be used without following the link. I don't believe code must exist for that to be the case.

I think this one is probably fine, given the question isn't how to create a limited user, and thus the answer doesn't need to demonstrate that part directly.


Put another way, the link isn't a necessary part of this answer. It can be removed and the answer would still be an answer.

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    To me "In MySQL, you can create a limited user (create new user and grant limited access), which can only access certain table." seems like a comment, not an answer. Commented Mar 29 at 21:25
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    It probably could exist as just a comment, yes. Many comments could be answers, and many answers could be comments. That an answer could exist as a comment doesn't make it not an answer..
    – Kevin B
    Commented Mar 29 at 21:29
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    It certainly doesn't make it link only, in any case.
    – Kevin B
    Commented Mar 29 at 21:36
  • In the most rigid interpretation, it doesn’t qualify as LO due to the presence of extra text, even though LO is merely a part of NAA. It certainly appears to be either VLQ or NAA. If you’re not utilizing MySQL, and the question doesn’t specify this, and you’re unaware of what a limited user implies, then that response is NAA. Commented Mar 29 at 23:15
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    @TrentonMcKinney that answer is not VLQ at all, see: Am I misusing the "Very Low Quality" flag? It is also not NAA since it basically says "Create a new user and grant it limited access" which is an answer to "How can I allow users to run arbitrary SQL safely?" Does it lack explanation on how to create the user and grant it permissions? Yes. Does that disqualify it as an answer? No. Commented Mar 30 at 8:54
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    To be honest, I disagree with the sentiment on this particular answer being a comment. The comment box specifically says "Avoid answering questions in comments", and this is clearly an attempt at an answer. Frankly, it's a half decent answer. It would be better with the SQL code showing you what to do, but the OP doesn't actually specify what version of SQL they're using, so it's possible the code can change. But the answer gives instructions: create a user and then grant them only access to a certain table...
    – Kraigolas
    Commented Mar 30 at 21:54
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    ...A DBA would probably understand how to do this, the question asked what to do, and the answer addresses that. I would be fine with people not liking the answer and downvoting, but I find people way more often answer questions in comments than write comments as answers, and it seriously is bad practice. I've missed a LOT of helpful answers for a long time because they were buried as comments on the question, and I only look at the answers.
    – Kraigolas
    Commented Mar 30 at 21:57
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Without code it's an incomplete answer. I would personally downvote it because it doesn't answer the question without the link—the person who asked the question presumably doesn't know about limited users (I certainly don't), so this answer is basically telling me the correct Google search terms. Might as well leave an "let me google that for you" link.

Is it an answer? Yes.

Is it a good one? No.

Downvote and move on.

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    the featured answer suggests administration to solve the problem. I see no reason to require code to set up a limited user. Commented Apr 1 at 8:33
  • If not code then it should at least explain in some way how to go about doing it. Otherwise it's incomplete; we ask people to give complete, self-contained questions & answers -- telling me the appropriate search term and nothing more isn't self contained. Commented Apr 1 at 12:21
  • But but but someone is wrong on the internet! I need to downvote it, nuke it, post about it on meta, put a link in the SOCVR chat room and generally fixate on it in an unhealthy way. "Move on"? - What language are you trying to speak there?
    – Gimby
    Commented Apr 3 at 8:38
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    It's hard, I know. Commented Apr 3 at 12:23
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I don't think you can rely on a simple rule that applies the same in all cases where this happens; often the description of the link is not enough information to qualify. However, in this specific case, I think the description is enough to qualify it as an OK, attempt at answering.

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In my opinion, link, no-link, code, or no-code should not be a criterion to judge whether an answer is complete. The answer should attempt to solve the problem by giving enough suggestions. The suggestions can be in the form of code (or not). Any additional link should help the reader to explore further in detail if needed (but not mandatory).

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    "The answer should attempt to solve the problem by giving enough suggestions." This is already the rule. Of concern is whether the only "suggestion" is a link to an off-site resource, because that's not allowed per site rules, due to the very real risk of link-rot.
    – TylerH
    Commented Apr 1 at 13:00

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