TL;DR: 75% of what newcomers see when they follow a link to an SO question has nothing to do with the answer they came looking for. And I don't think that's right.
This morning I was looking, as most everybody in this site, for a solution to a programming problem I had — as I've been doing for years.
The only difference today was that, for some reason, I was logged out.
And I saw what newcomers see when they come to Stack Overflow for help:
Seriously?
I'm counting:
- three ads (the "SO for Teams" panel on the left counts as an ad, sorry).
- A couple of sections which are kind of irrelevant for newcomers just looking for an answer, but still take a lot of space on the sides (way more than necessary — so much margin...)
- A "sign-up options" banner on the bottom which seems completely redundant, as there are already "Log in" & "Sign up" buttons up there where users could see all the available options if they actually wanted to sign up.
- ... and finally, the actual question, cramped into the barely ~25% of screen real state that remains. 35% if we include the title, which sits above the ad because why would we keep the title closest to the question, right?
I was honestly horrified by this. Maybe I'm just too used to the veteran user experience (where I have fewer / no ads when logged in, and Meta and side menu are genuinely relevant to me), but I'm really worried about the impression newcomers are getting from SO — a supposedly clean, no BS, just Questions & Answers site that nowadays looks like any other ad-ridden forum.
It hurts in a special way if we take into account the years of blaming the SO community for being unwelcoming of new users... Well, how is this landing page welcoming at all? I came here looking for answers and 50% of the page is just ads and another 20% is things that look completely irrelevant to me!
Is this the kind of experience that Stack Overflow wants for new users?
Just so this post doesn't look like the rant it is, here's some suggestions:
- Remove bottom sign-up banner
- Remove ads
- Yeah, I knew that one wouldn't work ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ but at least...
- Reposition ads so they take less screen real state
- Reduce margin on the sides
- ... and/or collapse side menu to the left, or move it into a drop-down in top bar
- ... and/or remove Featured on Meta for unlogged users landing directly on a question page (keep it for logged-in users, otherwise show it only on Home page), or at least make it thinner or something.
EDIT: To all the comment(er)s telling me to use an ad blocker with custom rules: you're missing the point. I'm not the one seeing these ads, I have the privilege to disable them 🤷🏻♂️ But what about those coming to the site for the first time (usually from a Google search)? How can we expect them to see Stack Overflow as a good place to obtain answers to their questions, if the first page they see is so full of non-answer-related elements?
Surely there are ways to make the experience better? I made some honest suggestions (ok, except for the "remove ads" one -- that one was obviously a joke, Cerbrus, glad it made you laugh ;), but I'm sure SO designers can come up with better ways of displaying questions and answers more prominently while still displaying some ads here and there in an unobtrusive way. I'd say that's more important than changing some colors, tbh.
Also, I'm kind of baffled that almost all comments, along with the (currently) only answer, can be boiled down to:
"other sites look the same or worse".
First of all: wow. That's it? That's the goal now: to be the "less bad" option? And second, it's not even true! Who cares about YouTube or Quora? Coderanch of all places, with its ancient phpBB interface, devotes almost 50% screen space to the actual content:
And I'm not even screenshooting Codidact, because they are not on the monetize phase (yet), but of course the questions get more space there as well.
So I don't really know what y'all mean by "that's how sites with ads look today". That's no excuse. Stack Overflow was created precisely because Q&A sites back then were centered more on ads than on actual content (among other reasons); it was never meant to look like the "average" ad-supported site :(