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Recently, my account experienced a significant voting correction of -2033 reputation points, which could also be a mistake given its unusual magnitude. It stands out from the typical reputation drops ranging between -10 and -250 points due to user removals I've seen over the years, and it's the first time I've encountered such a substantial correction. It is also strange that initially -2014 points were corrected, followed by an additional -19. However, the phrase "voting corrected" and the learn more link provide no clarity.

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I am aware this could be related to voting fraud1,2 , yet I have not engaged in such activities. I don't boast about my contributions on this site, and I am not sure who would systematically upvote me. To my knowledge, no other user in my tags experienced the same.

While I expect to regain the lost reputation points promptly, understanding the cause of this correction is critical to maintaining credibility and upholding a professional reputation, especially for potential employers, reviewing my profile3.

Seeking insights on:

  1. Identifying the specific votes corrected.
  2. Uncovering what exactly triggered this correction - whether it was due to alleged voting fraud or other factors.
  3. Any similar recent experiences within the community?
  4. Proactive measures to prevent such incidents
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    Doesn't seem there is an indication that you were at fault. It's most likely some voting ring being eliminated and you were just one of the victims. Probably a large one. Don't think you can get clarity on 1. and as for 4. - I don't think you yourself can do anything to prevent voting rings and fraudulent voting of others.
    – VLAZ
    Commented Oct 26, 2023 at 8:12
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    "I am not sure who would upvote me 2033 times" You're off by a factor of 10 (reputation per upvote), so it's 203.3 upvotes (give or take). I...don't have a great explanation for those exact numbers, though. Also, the upvotes were from multiple people. "no other user in my tags experienced the same" Some number of other users were also hit by this invalidation (and lost more reputation).
    – Ryan M Mod
    Commented Oct 26, 2023 at 8:23
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    Just to clarify, that's not 2033 upvotes. It's score total, so it's a mix of upvotes, downvotes and maybe acceptances.
    – VLAZ
    Commented Oct 26, 2023 at 8:24
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    I've brought this post to the attention of the staff member who processed this invalidation; it's possible there was an error (human judgement is involved), so I think it's good to double-check in this case. Only staff members with access to individual vote data will be able to check for certain.
    – Ryan M Mod
    Commented Oct 26, 2023 at 8:25
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    @RyanM Oh yes, thanks for pointing that out, I corrected it in OP. Thank you for bringing it to staff's attention. I fully understand and support correction of abuse. However, the respective votes should be corrected and not all deducted at once so that the reputation curve buckles. This should be discussed.
    – jay.sf
    Commented Oct 26, 2023 at 8:39
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    So if your real concern your reputation graph, @jay.sf ? Why? Much like reputation itself, it's just internet points.
    – Thom A
    Commented Oct 26, 2023 at 8:41
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    @ThomA No, the curve reflects what technically happened―points were subtracted not votes corrected.
    – jay.sf
    Commented Oct 26, 2023 at 8:45
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    "points were subtracted not votes corrected." What does that even mean..? Votes were corrected. Votes result in reputation, and if they votes are reversed, so too is the reputation. The votes were corrected, and you lost reputation as a result.
    – Thom A
    Commented Oct 26, 2023 at 8:46
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    Related: meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/406093/…
    – Daedalus
    Commented Oct 26, 2023 at 8:50
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    @ThomA, I appreciate your input. My point is that while votes were corrected, the manner in which the reputation was subtracted all at once created a sudden dip in the reputation graph, which doesn't accurately reflect the historical voting pattern. It's more about accurately representing the voting history rather than the mere loss of reputation points. I believe a more staggered correction, reflecting when the votes actually occurred, would have been more representative and less abrupt on the reputation graph.
    – jay.sf
    Commented Oct 26, 2023 at 8:57
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    I know this is hard, but something similar happened to me a few years ago. Apparently a user who was a "fan" of mine had his account deleted (or was deleted) and in the process I lost all the reputation I got from him (similar amount as yours). This sucks and doesn't seem to be a good solution for anyone involved.
    – Rabbid76
    Commented Oct 26, 2023 at 9:10
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    So, reading between the many lines, this is actually a [feature-request], to ask that when a user's votes are reversed, that the reputation is removed from the targets gradually, rather than all at once. Is that correct? If so, you have my downvote.
    – Thom A
    Commented Oct 26, 2023 at 9:13
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    @ThomA, thanks for the engagement. Daedalus pointed out that Stack Exchange might cache votes, which could result in a delay in flattening the curve. This suggests that the sudden drop in reputation could correct itself over time without a need for a new feature. My primary intent remains to understand the unusual voting correction, and this discussion has provided valuable insights towards that. I appreciate your input and the broader perspective.
    – jay.sf
    Commented Oct 26, 2023 at 9:24
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    @ThomA I understood it as a feature request that corrected votes are processed retroactively, i.e., the whole reputation history (and graph) recalculated as if the votes never happened. This would cause the reputation history to have a normal/more accurate slope (just ever so slightly less steep than it originally was with the fraudulent votes) instead of showing a sharp drop at a given moment. While this seems computationally prohibitive I actually don't think it is a bad idea.
    – Marijn
    Commented Oct 26, 2023 at 12:33
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    That's more or less how it worked a long time ago, @Marijn - reputation would be recalculated and it would appear as though the votes never existed. The downside was that catching errors like this one was difficult; some folks used 3rd-party services to track their reputation just to have an accurate record.
    – Shog9
    Commented Oct 27, 2023 at 3:27

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A Community Manager reversed the invalidation. You'll note your reputation is back where it was. Unfortunately, with the recent staff shakeup, some new folks are learning the vote invalidation tools, which have something of a learning curve apparently, but thankfully, vote reversals can now be undone pretty easily.

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The correction isn't against you, it's against another user (or many). The votes by those users have been invalidated and, it appears, that many of those votes may have targetted you. This might have been to hide their actual true target(s).

To answer the bullet points:

  1. You can't, the action, as I mentioned, is against users not posts.
  2. You won't, that information won't be disclosed because it's got nothing to do with you. You weren't at fault, and moderators/CMs don't discuss actions against other users.
  3. All the time. There was a very large such "event" on 23 June 2021.
  4. There already are and many of these systems work well. What you are seeing is a reactive measure. That you are seeing a reactive measure doesn't mean there aren't proactive measures too.
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  • Thank you for your answer and also for the link you shared, the wording of which is appropriate for what happened (albeit a bit verbose). However, my reputation curve shows a bend at this point in time; therefore, the voting was not actually corrected, but 2033 was deducted from me, which is a small but fine difference.
    – jay.sf
    Commented Oct 26, 2023 at 8:32
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    I'm not sure what you mean, @jay.sf , the voting was corrected; the votes someone else made were revoked/invalidated. The correction is invalidating those votes as they were, apparently, illegitimate. I think you're reading the action as the correction is against you (or your reputation). As I stated "The correction isn't against you, it's against another user (or many)"
    – Thom A
    Commented Oct 26, 2023 at 8:39
  • I mean, if the votes were really corrected, I wouldn't see more reputation than I currently have when I mouse over my reputation curve (plot) in my profile. So the votes were not corrected, it just looks like I got -2033 that day.
    – jay.sf
    Commented Oct 26, 2023 at 8:43
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    @jay.sf Have you considered caching?
    – Daedalus
    Commented Oct 26, 2023 at 8:47
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    Should you blame caching @jay.sf .
    – Thom A
    Commented Oct 26, 2023 at 8:47
  • @Daedalus Yes thanks. Deleted cache and still shows > 60K a few days ago.
    – jay.sf
    Commented Oct 26, 2023 at 8:51
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    @jay.sf I didn't say anything about your cache. SE caches data too, you know.
    – Daedalus
    Commented Oct 26, 2023 at 8:52
  • @Daedalus Ah didn't know. So you mean the cache will be cleared? When?
    – jay.sf
    Commented Oct 26, 2023 at 8:55
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    @jay.sf I don't know. That'd be a question for SE, but I'd recommend checking out this post which speaks of a similar problem. I already linked this same post above on this question.
    – Daedalus
    Commented Oct 26, 2023 at 9:03
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    If we're talking about the graph, then hate to break it to you but yeah it would appear as a drop in the graph. (For example I have a voting correction for 180 rep on my graph sometime in February this year) Commented Oct 26, 2023 at 10:00
  • @jay.sf actually it is relatively easy to find out which votes have been corrected specifically (your question #1), see meta.stackexchange.com/a/312191.
    – Marijn
    Commented Oct 26, 2023 at 12:38
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    Even more easy if you use the app I wrote for that: se-reputation-audit.glitch.me
    – rene
    Commented Oct 26, 2023 at 17:47
  • Thanks for the clarification. I just got a VC (-50/-90) rep change. The "link" states that it wasn't a fault of mine, but tbh, reputation decreases has this 'connotation' that I did something wrong. Yes, it's just a psychological thing, but, it's disconcerting that maybe I did do something wrong?
    – ewokx
    Commented Jan 18 at 1:36
  • Again, you didn't do something wrong, @ewokx , someone else did and it impacted you. Their actions have been undone, and that has impacted you.
    – Thom A
    Commented Jan 18 at 9:00

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