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From time to time I stumble across questions about Helm charts.

Tag information of doesn't contain a clause about what's on- or off-topic.

Based an on excerpt from I think they are off-topic:

KUBERNETES QUESTIONS MUST BE SPECIFICALLY RELATED TO SOFTWARE DEVELOPMENT. Configuration and deployment is off-topic here. A good rule of thumb is, if it happens outside the pod, it's probably off-topic. If it's about code running inside the pod, it's probably OK.

But I'm not sure my understanding is correct, because technically helm charts introduce one more layer of abstraction, that can be considered as programming itself.

Can somebody please help me understand, with this question as an example, what should be done with these questions; when they are on topic and when not? And if some of them are off topic (and decent quality) should they be flagged to be moved to DevOps.SE1 or somewhere else?


1 : This answer from a moderator on their meta suggests that they aren't against massive migration of related questions, from which I conclude they wouldn't be against single question migrations.

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    Your exemple question is a syntax problem at root I think. Would be on topic on DevOps but closed as needing details to be answered there as well as here. (Disclaimer: I'm an ex pro-temp devops.se mod)
    – Tensibai
    Aug 29 at 12:41
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    @Tensibai, I do believe that all or almost all [helm] questions would be on-topic there. my question was more of "are the off-topic here", or even "are they off-topic here enough to warrant closure or migration".
    – markalex
    Aug 29 at 12:46
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    Mostly, often not IMHO. There's a fair bit of overlap as DevOps does accept programming questions related to IAC/IAS SDK, etc.
    – Tensibai
    Aug 29 at 16:21

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Most things that intersect with and seem like "programming" to me. The Go text/template language has functions, variables, loops, and other things you'd expect out of a programming language. The highest-scored question with both of these tags as of this writing is Kubernetes Helm, combine two variables with a string in the middle and that's very much a programming-101 question.

On the other end of the spectrum, I agree that a lot of the questions are of the form "I'm trying to deploy software X with a Helm chart, what values should I provide to...?" I tend to close these as "not about programming or software development". ( and seem to be frequent offenders here for whatever reason.)

Having written this: the question you link to is in fact a question and is in fact closed as "not about programming", and I agree with this.

I don't think wholesale migrating all of the questions to DevOps.SE is right; I think there are enough on-topic questions to make the tag worth keeping. But I agree with voting to close questions where the operative verb is "deploy" or "configure", and not "build" or "write" or "develop".

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  • Great, thanks for explanation. Will be voting to close questions about deploying and configuring, especially in mentioned prometheus and grafana tagged questions, since they are basically my scope of interest)
    – markalex
    Aug 31 at 5:02
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    Please consider adding ontopicness scope clause to tag's excerpt.
    – markalex
    Aug 31 at 5:05
  • I don't think all configuring questions are necessarily off-topic. I ran into a template with a weird looping syntax and couldn't, for the life of me, figure out how to structure a yaml list of objects that would satisfy the parser. That sounds on-topic per the first paragraph. Aug 31 at 15:10
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Questions about writing charts/templates (e.g. Yaml files) might be on-topic. Otherwise, no I don't see how Kubernetes Helm is on-topic here, especially considering much of Kubernetes itself is also off-topic here.

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