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Today, collectives got some design updates, notably an updated layout for the header and menu. Also included in these updates is a redesigned Overview page, which changes that initial landing page into more of a “hub” for the collective’s content, grouping questions in different ways. A “Get started” checklist also helps new members and visitors learn more about the features and benefits of a collective. The header and sidebar display various metrics to showcase collective activity to the community.

The Overview page also helps draw attention to more unique and actionable lists of questions in the collective’s tags, such as bountied questions (“Looking for some extra reputation?”), unanswered questions (“Can you answer these questions?“), and questions with recommended answers. A dedicated Questions page has been added to the menu, which includes a more straightforward, sortable list of questions that was formerly on the Overview page.

If you are a Member of a collective, or someone interested in the collective’s subject area, will you find the updated overview page useful?

What additional elements would you like to see?

Image of the updated Overview page in the example "Audio" collective, showing the updated elements described in this post

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    @Andreasdetestscensorship Audio Collective is one of our demo collectives. It's not real and used for testing and mockup purposes so we can avoid showing any personal or proprietary information. Similarly we also use the AudioBubble Collective as well in other mockups.
    – Carog StaffMod
    May 4 at 17:47
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    I'd also like to point out that the board of "recognized members" in the sidebar, potentially promotes harmful behaviour, such as reputation farming. There's a problem with high-reputation users answering obvious duplicates, and off-topic and LQ questions, instead of doing moderation. But this has probably been brought to your attention before, I assume? May 4 at 17:52
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    Not exactly a fan of bounties being a part of any update that isn't removing bounties, but otherwise I think it's an improvement.
    – Kevin B
    May 4 at 18:07
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    @Andreasdetestscensorship Are you concerned about the specific module (board) on the page, or the broader Recognized Member (RM) idea? Defining each collective's criteria for the RM role is an ongoing process and would ideally screen out the type of users you refer to.
    – Berthold StaffMod
    May 4 at 18:09
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    "Looking for some extra reputation?" - seriously? I don't know if this header was present in the old version of the page, but this is... quite something. Officially encouraging <rep-something> on the overview page? At least say something neutral like "Looking for some extra challenge?" May 4 at 18:23
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    or "Looking for ChatGPT answers?" (/s)
    – Kevin B
    May 4 at 18:26
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    @OlegValteriswithUkraine We agree, thanks for your suggestion, we'll be changing the title of that section in the next sprint.
    – Carog StaffMod
    May 4 at 19:20
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    @Berthold Well, the question you linked to, is about R specifically, so that's not exactly capturing the essence, but I'd say it's a combination. Having it so clearly on the site, and celebrating their reputation, is eye-catching, and really makes it seem as if it's all about the reputation, and that there's a game to get to the top. The broader idea, I'd say is rather pointless. Why recognize them as members of the collective? It only reinforces a conception that not every member is equal. When I see a "recognized member" flair, golden text, description, etc, my brain automatically shuts down May 4 at 20:46
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    critical thinking. Because, obviously, this member is now approved, right? That's the idea I get. It's an unfair presentation, saying that because something was written by this member, it must necessarily be correct, or be the best and most accurate. May 4 at 20:47
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    Also, the "average response rate (in the last 24 hours)" is horrible. It makes it seem like SO is some personal help desk. May 4 at 23:03
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    And also, it's not only the "recognized members" sidebar board that gives this impression. It's also that box right above it: "leaderboard position". This makes it so clear that this is indeed a competitive game. Is this really what you want SO to be? May 4 at 23:10
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    @Andreasdetestscensorship I hear you about needing to hit the right note with the role flair and recognition. It should be more about the content than the user. We’ve already seen that there are wonderful people who do good work in these tags and are eager to collaborate and find other wats to contribute. Finding the right balance in denoting/recognizing them is something we’ll continue to work on, with the community.
    – Berthold StaffMod
    May 5 at 16:27
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    I also understand the purist/altruist motivation for contributing. I enjoy editing wikis because I like improving a knowledge base. At the same time, we have to understand that it is 2023, not 2009. Role attainment and gamification do motivate a lot of people, and to keep replenishing the community of contributors we have to tap into that. There is a balance to hit there as well.
    – Berthold StaffMod
    May 5 at 16:28
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    @Berthold I personally understand (although disagree ideologically) that extrinsic motivation is an important factor in maintaining participation levels, however, this can be done without damaging what is supposed to be the primary goal of the platform. Speaking of, is there anything else than reputation earned that is taken into account when calculating a given user's position in the leaderboard? May 5 at 19:45
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    @OlegValteriswithUkraine It is only reputation earned within the collective's tags, excluding bounties.
    – Berthold StaffMod
    May 5 at 20:54

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