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So I was recently reviewing questions, and I found this very condescending comment. The comment

The line "And you can't believe how easy it was to google some keywords and find this link." Would definitely put a bad impression of the site as a beginner.

The beginning of the comment is alright but towards the end it gets messy. So, I was wondering if I have my idea of this type of flag fundamentally wrong.

Update: comment is removed. ALSO I GOT A LARGE AMOUNT OF NOTIFICATIONS

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    I honestly see nothing wrong with that comment. Mar 17 at 4:59
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    @SecurityHound Would "can't believe how easy it was to google" be condescending at all?
    – Blue Robin
    Mar 17 at 5:00
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    This comment seems overly condescending to me too. Mar 17 at 5:05
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    @SecurityHound It seems kind of like the classic "you could Google that in 5 seconds!" type comment that the CoC banned. At a minimum, it does not seem like a constructive comment to me. Mar 17 at 5:07
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    With my current formulae, it would look like: "Welcome to Stack Overflow. Please read How to Ask, and try to look for existing answers before posting. For example, putting specific query into a search engine readily finds direct answers such as example.com/matplotlib/exactly_what_you_wanted." Mar 17 at 5:38
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    The beginning of the comment is fine. The ending is... not great. Yes, it's not really the type of thing we'd prefer to see posted here. However, it's not the type of thing that I would be inclined to validate an "unfriendly or unkind" flag against. Especially since doing so would appear to be destructive of value, since there's useful information in the first part of the comment. Probably, had I handled the flag, I would have deleted the last two sentences. Incidentally, everything I see wrong with this comment, I also see wrong with @Karl's comment. Can't see handling 'em differently.
    – Cody Gray Mod
    Mar 17 at 6:43
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    Not leaving any comments that imply people haven't done enough work to be eligible to ask a question. If you have a specific piece of feedback on how to improve the question, then that's a reasonable thing to post as a comment. If you want to share a relevant link that your research found but don't have time to post a full answer, that's a reasonable use of a comment (at least on SO; other sites apparently have different standards, YMMV). I can't really think of a reason why How to Ask should ever be linked in a comment under a question on the main site.
    – Cody Gray Mod
    Mar 17 at 7:11
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    "I can't really think of a reason why How to Ask should ever be linked in a comment under a question on the main site." - then why is there a shortcut syntax for linking it in comments? "Not leaving any comments that imply people haven't done enough work to be eligible to ask a question." - but they haven't, and should be informed of this so that they can correct the habit. Mar 17 at 7:22
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    If people haven't done enough research I feel the automatic "Does this answer your question" with a duplicate closure is enough. No need to go out of your way to provide search queries etc. If the point is that their question isn't clear enough to close as duplicate but most likely one just close it for lacking details and clarity. Mar 17 at 7:27
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    "then why is there a shortcut syntax for linking it in comments?" Why do I have fists, if they're not for beating people up? "but they haven't" This isn't possible, because there is no prior research requirement for asking a question on Stack Overflow.
    – Cody Gray Mod
    Mar 17 at 7:42
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    Just because something can be condescending doesn't imply that it is. But I meet halfway, it is unnecessary to phrase it like that. I usually just say "I googled this and that and came up with this in the first hits". I'm just speaking the truth, but the implication is the same. And there is a wise lesson in there, because unresearched questions are not very likely to be well-received. You have to make the effort, not doing it will get you into trouble eventually.
    – Gimby
    Mar 17 at 8:24
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    @CodyGray "I can't really think of a reason why How to Ask should ever be linked in a comment under a question on the main site." Because many people obviously haven't read it. It is quite difficult to find unless one knows that one should look for it. Telling people where to find information how to pose or edit a question properly seems incredibly relevant feedback for many questions. Mar 17 at 9:11
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    @CodyGray Personally, I haven't been able to reconcile the stated goal of SE to build a library of high-quality Q&As with your advice, which is the accepted advice. Why isn't okay to point out "either implicitly or explicitly, the opinion that the question sucks and should never have been posted."? I wouldn't use that wording but you seem to say that no wording would make it okay to express the opinion that a question is bad.
    – dipetkov
    Mar 17 at 9:31
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    "ALSO I GOT A LARGE AMOUNT OF NOTIFICATIONS" - ha ha :) When you see youtube videos about people being arrested you often see people complaining that the cuffs hurt and such, and they're suddenly thirsty, and their nose itches. I saw one police officer respond with "That's the bother of being arrested". When you create a meta post... be ready to be bothered. It's coming.
    – Gimby
    Mar 17 at 14:42
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    Often the "Welcome to SO!" bit is just a hollow gesture to excuse the criticism that follows.
    – Kevin B
    Mar 17 at 15:52

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