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I think we should burninate or disambiguate/split up .

The tag Wiki states

A record in programming is a data type with labels to access fields of the record.

However, it is used for

If we go though the Burnination criteria list:

Does it describe the contents of the questions to which it is applied? and is it unambiguous?

It is ambigous because it can refer to database records, audio recording or data types (and possibly other things)

Is the concept described even on-topic for the site?

Depends on the context. Having a record of something isn't really on-topic as is but there are contexts (e.g. record types) where it is on-topic.

Does the tag add any meaningful information to the post?

Adding information that it is about e.g. record types does add information in some cases but it can mean different things. Most programs are "keeping a record of something" after all.

Does it mean the same thing in all common contexts?

No, not at all

Is the tag causing a fairly large amount of harm?

Maybe? People might want to e.g. answer questions about record types in a programming language or recording audio. Those people might have a hard time searching for those if a generic tag exists.

I propose creating a new tag for database records, retagging questions about recording audio to , and splitting up questions about record types to language specific tags like or .

As the time of writing, there are 3,558 questions tagged with [record].

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    A record in SQL is exactly what the tag wiki describes.
    – Bergi
    Dec 27, 2022 at 18:28
  • Something most definitely should be done. Example: seeing [mongodb] with [record] and hovering over [record] to get the, IMHO, oddly worded summary seems way "off" for a document DB. There are plenty of other examples, but seems like a massive retagging effort...
    – Kit
    Dec 27, 2022 at 20:08
  • @Kit "MongoDB stores data records as BSON documents." It does refer to exactly the same kind of "record".
    – Bergi
    Dec 27, 2022 at 21:10
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    Break this [record].
    – kjhughes
    Dec 27, 2022 at 21:43
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    @Bergi, I suppose so, but in practice (albeit anecdotally), it seems we talk about documents. Anyway, record certainly seems overused like "service".
    – Kit
    Dec 27, 2022 at 21:45
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    Is it time to wipe this tag from the [record]s?
    – Joundill
    Dec 27, 2022 at 22:44
  • "As the time of writing, there are 3,558 questions tagged with [record]" *traumatic [tag:script] memories resurface
    – starball
    Dec 28, 2022 at 0:33
  • Not keen on the java-record or delphi-record, that might lead to many other my-favourite-programming-language-record tags. Anyway, the language should be provided by another tag on the question. Suggest using some other language agnostic prefix (or suffix) to the new ...record... tag.
    – AdrianHHH
    Dec 28, 2022 at 8:24
  • What's the [record] for the worst tag? Dec 28, 2022 at 22:59
  • Change the [record].
    – khelwood
    Dec 29, 2022 at 10:58
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    Related (2018): Resolve ambiguity with the [record] tag Dec 29, 2022 at 16:43

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I don't think the tag should be burninated. It's definitely on topic as defined by the tag wiki.

The tag also should not be split up per programming language. It refers to a general concept that can be found in SQL, in Java, in Pascal, in Haskell etc. Putting together with the respective language tag is enough to classify a question. This does not cause harm, it is the standard practice, and easily distinguished in a search.

I'm never against tag cleanup, of course. The tag should not be used for audio, we have for that; also for the Android-specific API. These require some retagging effort.

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  • What is the difference between a "record" and a "row" in SQL Server? seems to conclude that there are no records in SQL (except in PL/SQL), only the term row should be used. The main issue I see with keeping the ambiguous record is that people will continue using it for sql, android and audio questions. Even a clear indication in the tag wiki wouldn’t help since most people don’t read it.
    – Didier L
    Dec 30, 2022 at 15:42
  • @DidierL Ah, I come from Postgres where record is a data type and can be constructed, similar to a "tuple". I agree that it's not synonymous to the storage unit "row", any such usage should be cleaned up. And few SQL questions would need the tag at all, unless they are specifically about records - same for [row]s.
    – Bergi
    Dec 30, 2022 at 16:01
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I suggest the following:

  • Keep the for the SQL record (, ,... tags). Alternatively, the plain related to SQL might be renamed to to disambiguate the sole itself to prevent its incorrect usage.
  • Introduce a new tag for the record data type used in Java and other languages. Similarly, there were introduced not too long ago.
  • Introduce a new tag for the records related to the sound records.
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    [sql-record] is just the [record-type] in the SQL languge. No need to distinguish them.
    – Bergi
    Dec 29, 2022 at 12:06
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    Note that [audio-recording] already exists.
    – dan1st
    Dec 29, 2022 at 14:26
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    Record should be renamed, otherwise it will be misused. (See [word])
    – A-Tech
    Dec 30, 2022 at 11:09
  • What is the difference between a "record" and a "row" in SQL Server? seems to conclude that there are no records in SQL (except in PL/SQL), only the term row should be used.
    – Didier L
    Dec 30, 2022 at 15:38

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