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This is a follow-up from the synonym request Suggestion for tag synonyms [self-host] vs [self-hosting].

The tag has 745 questions at the time of writing this proposal.

Does it describe the contents of the questions to which it is applied? and is it unambiguous?

I don't think it describes the contents. It describes circumstances.

Is the concept described even on-topic for the site?

No. Hosting-related questions are off-topic here.

Does the tag add any meaningful information to the post?

Well, no, because it's off-topic. So the meaningful information from the tag is that the question using it should probably be closed and deleted. For questions about programming, it doesn't add any meaningful information.

Does it mean the same thing in all common contexts?

Definitely not.

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    Un-host [self-hosting]?
    – Nick
    Commented Oct 22, 2022 at 22:45
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    The party is over for [self-hosting]?
    – Nick
    Commented Oct 22, 2022 at 22:45
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    Eviction for [self-hosting] (riffing on Nick's first suggestion)
    – tripleee
    Commented Oct 23, 2022 at 9:56
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    My first thought was 'self-hosting language compiler' but that's not what the tag wiki is about. Kill it with fire. Commented Oct 24, 2022 at 14:49
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    No longer [self-hosting]?
    – JaMiT
    Commented Oct 25, 2022 at 8:01
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    Get over your [self-hosting]!
    – kjhughes
    Commented Oct 25, 2022 at 18:28

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I'm against burninating this tag, and here's why. Consider this question for reference, so you can verify my answers to tag burnination quiz by an actual example.

Does it describe the contents of the questions to which it is applied? and is it unambiguous?

Definitely yes: the question is about self-hosted CI action runner, and the tag adds some context to the question (at least I'm reading this as "if I use self-hosted runner, everything dies").

Is the concept described even on-topic for the site?

Yes, CI & CD systems are on-topic, according to point 7 of SO guide:

Questions on professional server, networking, or related infrastructure administration are off-topic for Stack Overflow unless they directly involve programming or programming tools.

I'm sure that CI actions runner directly involves programming tools. Also, present exception traceback, IMO, is a good marker of on-topic, programming-related question.

Does the tag add any meaningful information to the post?

Yes, the fact that runner is self-hosted may be important here.

Does it mean the same thing in all common contexts?

Almost: it refers to some system running on self-hosted server. It may be related to CI or deployment, but in general this context may be useful and important. It may be considered "too wide", but I don't think is more focused, for example.

Also, it's important to note that errors really may appear on self-hosted servers, but be absent on cloud service. I have my own case where subtle library version mismatch on Amazon EC2 and my local PC put down the whole application.

One more (perhaps, important) point: if does not fit SO requirements, then shouldn't the same relate to with 5-10 new questions daily? These two tags are two opposite scenarios, applicable in very similar contexts. Or take tag - it's even closer, has the same format, 3k questions and daily activity!

Also, I know nothing about asp.net and windows-based systems, but it looks like self-hosting asp.net applications is somewhat challenging compared to cloud-based solutions. At least, ordering questions tagged [self-hosted] by score shows that most questions in top are asking about asp.net self-hosted apps. I don't really understand these questions, so it would be create to hear from asp.net expert here to know whether the tag is properly used on them.

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    To how many question in the tag does this apply to?
    – Dharman Mod
    Commented Oct 24, 2022 at 15:01
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    Even asp.net + self-hosted has 54 questions. At least ten more ask about self-hosted CI runners - no common tag, though, but [gitlab] gives 5 valid questions, plus [github-actions] one, plus some more (1-2 q per tag each). Also 15 [docker] questions, at least 5 of them are on-topic and meaningfully refer to the fact of self-hosting. And it is just a raw estimate from quick looking through, self-hosting may be important for other questions too.
    – STerliakov
    Commented Oct 24, 2022 at 15:08
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    Also, I agree that [cloud] should also be removed.
    – Dharman Mod
    Commented Oct 24, 2022 at 15:17
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    Can confirm that there is a difference between cloud hosting an ASP.NET app and self-hosting it.
    – TarHalda
    Commented Oct 24, 2022 at 19:01
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    @Bellrampion I can confirm there is a difference between cloud hosting an ASP.NET app and self-hosting it. For one thing, the availability of certain configuration options is different. Commented Oct 25, 2022 at 12:24

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