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I just got a review ban because of this review.

Only the first three options were available, and I clicked "Share feedback", intending to add a comment to the OP. But the popup dialog never showed up, and I was directed to the screen of "bad review, you are banned".

As you can see in the post's question, it’s about scraping Instagram pages, and the in-review answer was a laconic:

I Had this problem too. Now I solve it with this url

https://www.instagram.com/p/CFr6G-whXxp/?__a=1&__d=dis

Maybe I am wrong, but I think this answer - although it was a legitimate one - tricked SO's algorithms to consider it a spam, and also led in considering my review wrong. That's why I am adding the bug tag in this post.

Can I have your thoughts please? Is "share feedback" in this answer a wrong one?

I got an 8-day review ban for this.

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  • What were "the first three options?" Commented Jul 10, 2022 at 0:50
  • @RobertHarvey options were "looks ok", "edit" and "share feedback" which triggers a submenu with other options
    – ilias-sp
    Commented Jul 10, 2022 at 0:52
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    On the contrary, there's plenty wrong with that answer. It's "link-only," the link itself is a bad link, and it's hard to imagine how anyone would get any help from an Instagram post. A spam flag would have been appropriate. Commented Jul 10, 2022 at 0:53
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    @RobertHarvey have you checked the post's question? its about scraping instagram page, the guy who i was reviewing his answer suggested to add some parameters to the URL
    – ilias-sp
    Commented Jul 10, 2022 at 0:55
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    And there you have it. Question context has always been a problem with the review queue for answers; even for moderators. If you look at the review, you'll see that there isn't even a link to the question to cross-check it. Commented Jul 10, 2022 at 0:56
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    @SecurityHound as far as i remember, clicking "share feedback" opens up a submenu with options, you are not commiting your review to anything, you can close the submenu dialog. i didnt have the chance to do that, i was led to the "bad review" response
    – ilias-sp
    Commented Jul 10, 2022 at 0:57
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    It would have been better if the poster had supplied some explanation with their answer to provide some context. The proper response is "share feedback," a response which apparently caused the audit to fail. Commented Jul 10, 2022 at 0:59
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    @RobertHarvey yes, 8 days, because there was another review failed: this one, for which i still think the "looks OK" was a valid selection - the answer was not a spam or offensive, i dont know if it was wrong or irrelevant, that would be for the OP to validate.
    – ilias-sp
    Commented Jul 10, 2022 at 1:03
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    That one has several problems. Commented Jul 10, 2022 at 1:04
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    I've switched the [bug] tag out. I understand your intention, but share feedback failing a "known good" audit is [status-by-design] (related: Why did I fail this first question review audit after choosing sharing feedback?). If you'd like this to be changed that would be a [feature-request] and/or [discussion] but this is not a [bug] in the implementation. A "this post appears to be spam" banner on a "known good" audit is also part of the review audit system and is not indicative that the post was considered to be spam.
    – Henry Ecker Mod
    Commented Jul 10, 2022 at 1:08
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    For reference, the other failed audit leading to the ban was stackoverflow.com/review/first-answers/32187236
    – Ryan M Mod
    Commented Jul 10, 2022 at 1:17
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    @RyanM i already shared that. I still think its a legitimate answer that the OP has the technical knowledge to evaluate if its useful / solving the issue or not. But we can focus in the review that i opened "this" post for.
    – ilias-sp
    Commented Jul 10, 2022 at 1:20
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    @RobertHarvey "If you look at the review, you'll see that there isn't even a link to the question to cross-check it" there are two places to see the question: i.sstatic.net/4RCko.png clicking on the title brings you to the post. Clicking on Question shows it without leaving the review queue.
    – VLAZ
    Commented Jul 10, 2022 at 5:43
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    The answer could certainly do with an edit to make it not look like a "Me too" answer. The non-URL text is basically noise. Simply changing the text to "I solved the problem by adding &__d=dis as an additional parameter to the URL" would lilely make it much less contentious, even if it doesn't explain why the solution works.
    – Thom A
    Commented Jul 10, 2022 at 10:15
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    Could be a duplicate of this:Why did I fail this first question review audit after choosing sharing feedback? (or any other "share feedback fails audit). It is an old issue, but the company has no time to address this issue, changing voting buttons is more important.
    – Tom
    Commented Jul 10, 2022 at 10:25

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While having all imaginable signs of a "bad, off-topic, not an answer" post, the answer actually answers the question and provides exactly the right information to the audience of the question.

I would not call it an ideal audit in the regular "you should be paying attention while reviewing" sense - and for other queues you'd probably have a good basis to ask to get this ban lifted. For the First posts reviews, the guidance is more elaborate—How do I use the First answers queue?—and checking other answers would have hinted that other answers are somewhat similar. Checking the whole question would actually show that 12 was the real number of votes. Note that I'm quite sure I'd fail that review too as the post does not look like an answer, but rather a "me too" comment (possibly I'd check the question due to the high score, but, as Robert Harvey commented, scores on audits are likely to be fake).

Why the post is actually an answer and why quality and votes are so off: The question essentially is "url example.com?param=1 no longer returns details while scraping" and the linked answer gives the modification to make that same URL work again "example.com?param=1&__someother=42".

This information is 100% enough for anyone involved in scraping of that particular site (which is a known and popular activity), thus making it a valuable answer for that particular part of the community. Indeed the answer could be made better by explicitly spelling out the change and removing "me too" portion, but the audience of the question is unlikely to be interested in such superficial improvements.

Note that I totally expect the answer to be updated with similar hacks in the future, but I don’t see any reason for one that scrapes web sites to worry about the answer being readable by other people.

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  • it is a tricky review, and the under review answer was meant to be classified as "looks OK". But i dont understand why clicking "share feedback" lead to "bad review". As i remember - and maybe i am wrong here - "share feedback" opens a submenu that you can cancel, but the design didnt give me this capability, it was immediately considered a bad review.
    – ilias-sp
    Commented Jul 10, 2022 at 9:19
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    @ilias-sp It leads to a bad review, because the company behind all Stack Exchange sites doesn't know anymore what those sites are supposed to be. Quality in posts was a goal, not anymore, so providing feedback to increase the quality is just considered toxic when some other users upvoted the post already (yes, I exaggerate a bit). When you do reviewe, never choose "share feedback" from the review queue, go to the actual post instead, or better, don't do reviews for a company which doesn't want you to do proper reviews.
    – Tom
    Commented Jul 10, 2022 at 10:22
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    @Tom from my experience reviewing several queues, i consider this whole reviewing concept a bad practice; in my opinion, only offensive/rude/racist/spam/etc posts should be removed, all rest should be allowed and handled by upvote/downvote buttons. i am not going to spend any more time on these queues.
    – ilias-sp
    Commented Jul 10, 2022 at 10:34
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    that is best a low quality answer and requires at least some explication why this works
    – nbk
    Commented Jul 10, 2022 at 13:23
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    Even though the answer answers the question, it's not a good answer. The First Answers queue is not Triage nor LQP where anything that isn't utter junk is Looks OK. Rather, in First Answers, if the post isn't anything other than perfect, sharing feedback can be helpful by commenting, editing, or voting. The answer was valuable in the form it was in during ilias-sp's review, but I think it does pretty clearly deserve additional treatment - in which case Share Feedback was the right choice. Commented Jul 10, 2022 at 13:45
  • @CertainPerformance - It would have been if more people downvoted the answer, but it had so many upvotes, providing feedback to improve the contribution, ended up being the incorrect choice. Audit would have been passed if the question was opened in another tab. Commented Jul 10, 2022 at 15:03

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