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I recently got question banned and as a result I am very careful when writing a question. Today, I was once again downvoted when asking what I felt was a solid, well written question.

As I have learned in my research trying to understand Stack Overflow's requirements, a good question has the following attributes:

  • A well written title ✅
  • Shows adequate research ✅
  • Introduces the problem before any code ✅
  • Helps others reproduce the problem ✅
  • Is well written, clear and understandable ✅
  • Has all the relevant tags ✅

I feel like the question I asked meets all of these criteria. Therefore, I do not understand why it was downvoted and poorly received.

This is why people are very frustrated with this in the community. We follow the guide, do hours of research, and when we reach out with a thoughtful and well written question, we still get downvoted and eventually question banned.

Is there something I am doing wrong in my question?

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    It is a bit unclear to me why you think you should replace the question with another one like you did in the linked post. You're supposed to improve existing questions, not replace it with other ones to circumvent a question ban.
    – Tom
    May 25, 2022 at 2:17
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    Personally, I don't really see the harm in replacing an old question that had no comments, votes, or answers. I wouldn't do anything to stop someone from doing that. That said, I suspect that's the reason for the downvotes - many people don't like that.
    – Ryan M Mod
    May 25, 2022 at 2:20
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    Otherwise, I don't see anything immediately apparent that's wrong with it - but I'm not a subject matter expert. It is possible that there's something apparent to subject matter experts that is wrong with it.
    – Ryan M Mod
    May 25, 2022 at 2:23
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    Please consider not rage quitting. For instance, log out of Stack Overflow and take a wikiholiday of, say, two or three weeks. And think about the design decisions for an alternative to Stack Overflow (for instance, to not repeat the exact same mistakes, like not designing for Eternal September (which Stack Overflow has been in for nearly 12 years now)). May 25, 2022 at 12:41

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As someone with some .NET knowledge (admittedly very stale these days, but not entirely forgotten), as well as someone with a lot of experience assessing the quality of questions, I reviewed your question. It is fine. Neither I nor another moderator that I discussed this with can find any reason why it, in its current form, was downvoted.

It does appear that you had originally asked a completely different question, then edited it into the current form. That's technically a rule violation. While we do encourage users to edit their questions and improve them, we stop short of allowing people to submit edits that completely change the question into something different. However, in this case, since there had been no interaction whatsoever from the community (no answers, no comments, and not even any votes at the time you submitted your edit), it's hard to get too upset about this minor offense.

I've made some minor polishing edits to your question and undeleted it. As noted, there is nothing wrong with it in its current form.

I, personally, find the "research" section to be noisy and pointless. There is no reason to share links to things you found that are entirely unrelated and unhelpful, and presenting them as a laundry list is just, well, off-putting and noisy. But that's a personal stylistic thing, and barely a reason to downvote, if even. I would recommend not including this type of thing in future questions; it doesn't help anyone to understand the problem or provide a good answer.


Now, that question aside, your interactions here on this Meta post have been rather problematic. You make a lot of claims that are simply untrue, and imply a very entitled attitude. You claim things like "I deserve a fresh start", but don't bother to tell us why. Why do you deserve this? You claim that "I am just looking for some fairness, which there clearly isn't any of", but that is demonstratively untrue; you're actually looking for special treatment, special in the sense that it is different than the kind of treatment that other users receive.

I've deleted those comments, and the replies to them, because they are not constructive and, more importantly, because they are not germane to what you are asking here in this specific question, which is for advice/feedback on a specific question on the main Stack Overflow site—a perfectly valid and commendable use of Meta.

I don't really want to get into litigating the site's policies and restrictions, because I'm tired of having this discussion over and over, and it's unlikely to do any good to have it again. But I do want to be very clear that creating a new account as a way of bypassing restrictions applied to your current account is considered an abuse of the system. It is not allowed, and action will be taken by moderators, including restricting the ability of subsequent accounts to interact with the site (in order to match or even exceed the restrictions applied to the original/main account). So, please don't do this.

If you'd like to work with us to understand the issues, or even determine that there are not any and a mistake was made in how some of your content was handled, that's fine. Mistakes do happen, and, more often, differences in judgment happen. People here are quite happy to work with you to help you improve your content, because our goal is really to improve the overall quality of content on the site. But when you start calling us "toxic", well, that doesn't motivate anyone to want to help you. That motivates us to get you to stop hurling accusations.

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    I understand how it can be frustrating to receive downvotes on something where you've actually taken the time to put in effort, but please understand that downvotes are not meant to be personal attacks, so you really shouldn't take them personally. 4 downvotes means that 4 random people on the Internet didn't like what you posted or didn't think it was good enough. It is my firm belief that that should not be enough to bring you to tears. May 25, 2022 at 3:37
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    Downvotes are not personal attacks any more than upvotes are personal... whatever the opposite of an attack is. Upvotes are a sign of agreement and approval; they suggest that the content is useful, clear, and a valuable contribution to Stack Overflow's knowledge base. Downvotes are the opposite. You should not be looking to this website (or probably any other, but definitely not this one) to provide for your personal growth or personal connections. That's not what this site is for. SO is like Wikipedia, except that it's in the form of bite-sized questions and answers, not long-form articles May 25, 2022 at 3:41
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    "I need to be able to connect with my peers," is where you implied it, I read it the same way as Cody appears to have, even if that wasn't your intention. May 25, 2022 at 3:44
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    I agree that the negative reception of your question was puzzling and, I think, unjustified. But drawing broader conclusions from that just doesn't follow. Getting a question downvoted doesn't mean you're a bad developer. I have had, and still continue to get, questions downvoted that I don't think have obvious quality issues (see, for example, this one). It isn't a commentary on me as a person or a developer. You said "I need to be able to connect with my peers"…how is that not looking for a personal connection? May 25, 2022 at 3:44
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    We are not here as a community. We are here as individuals contributing to a knowledge base. As stated in the tour, we are trying to build a high-quality library of answers to questions about programming. What you seem to be searching for is a social network for developers. While that might be valuable (I'm personally not interested), it definitely isn't what Stack Overflow is or is meant to be. You can certainly learn things from this site, and those things might help you grow as a person and/or a developer, but that's not the site's mission. May 25, 2022 at 3:46
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    This is not a site for that, any more than a museum is a site for archaeologists to connect with their peers or a library is a place for pet-lovers to connect with other pet lovers. May 25, 2022 at 3:49
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    Yes, there is a lot of misinformation that the marketing department has placed on the home page. I've complained about that numerous times before. It is doing a severe disservice by improperly setting users' expectations. You appear to have been the latest victim. The fact that the people who come to this site are developers is merely coincidental, as is the fact that by contributing to this knowledge base, we share information with each other. This is not a social networking site. It is not a community. It is a Q&A site. If you want community, you should look elsewhere from here. May 25, 2022 at 3:54
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    Collectives also FWIW are nothing to do with community, they're just groups of related tags bundled together and "owned" by some sponsor. Merely a filing cabinet of sorts. May 25, 2022 at 3:56
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    What you call "elegant" is what I call "misleading". It sets expectations that this is some kind of community where people care about other people. It isn't; we don't. This is strictly a question and answer site; the only things we care about are questions and answers (i.e., content). By using flowery language to describe some potential consequences of contributing here, it does a very real disservice to new users who don't properly understand our model by creating improper expectations. This, in turn, leads to a lot of frustration when such new users start receiving downvotes. May 25, 2022 at 3:58
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    This is the Meta site. Discussion and exchange of information is what we do here, in order to help support the people who are trying to use the main site. What we are doing here would be completely inappropriate on the main Stack Overflow site. That's why Meta was created. I am, as a moderator, willing to help you to the best of my ability, both to understand how SO was meant to work and to help you figure out how to benefit from it, b/c I do think it's an amazing resource. Meta works very much like a support/help desk. The main site isn't like that; treating it that way will turn out poorly. May 25, 2022 at 4:02
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    @Triangle4 I challenge you to find one stackoverflow post where people don't dicsuss like a community in the comments Find one post on SO where this is true, and it won't be longer after that. Discussions like that are, for good reason, usually deleted or moved to chat. Discussions of that kind are not allowed on the main site.
    – Daedalus
    May 25, 2022 at 4:58
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    Our semantic disagreements aside, we will not be permitting you to delete your account, given that your expressed intention is to start over again with another account. As noted in my answer, that is breaking the rules on this site, and it is the job of moderators not to allow that. May 25, 2022 at 4:59
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    @Triangle4 If I'm missing your point, you're clearly not doing a good job of explaining it because all I see is someone trying to fit SO into a box and trying to tell others what it's meant to be without actually knowing what it's meant to be... May 25, 2022 at 5:00
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    I have no intention of upsetting you, but merely to enforce the rules of this platform, which remain true regardless of which country you are accessing the site from. If you seek to be forgotten, you wouldn't be creating a new account. If you don't want to create a new account, then you have no need of deleting this one, so there's no further action that needs to be taken. Best wishes to you. May 25, 2022 at 5:15
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    If you want to start a philosophical discussion about the Ship of Theseus or bacterial replication, please do so as a new Q&A, not in the already ridiculously long comment thread here. Heretic Monkey has adequately summarized the standard policy, which is that you're welcome to improve things, even drastically, so long as you don't simply delete and replace them with something new. If you want to delete things, well, there's a button for that, and it isn't labeled "edit". @Braiam May 27, 2022 at 5:57
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I think that there are two main reasons here. One is that you say that you've scoured the internet, but you don't actually include anything specific that you've done - this makes it harder for others to suggest things to try, because they don't know what specifically you've tried. The second reason is that you name the error, but don't give much more detail - it could also help to say something such as how this answer does it: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/33918621/python-argparse-namespace-error#:~:text=Traceback%20.

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  • Take a look at this question: stackoverflow.com/questions/72336750/…. This shows certain approaches that the OP has taken. I would also suggest doing something like this: "I have tried example.com/tutorial, but that didn't work because that was referencing a depreciated version of the framework I'm using." Describe a few sources that you have seen and why they didn't work - that will also help others because it will reduce the chances of an answer that has already been tried.
    – user18457910
    May 25, 2022 at 2:00
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    That’s an entirely different question. It’s also a different author so finding it difficult to see the connection? May 25, 2022 at 5:35
  • The original comment by the OP was deleted - they were asking how to show what they had tried. My comment above was an example. Their comment was deleted because their account was deleted.
    – user18457910
    May 25, 2022 at 13:27
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You know what, I don't see it in the timeline. The question was deleted two minutes after it was asked and didn't get any vote (close, up, down) until well after you edited it, unless the timeline lies and the votes occurred before the edit (in which case that seems to be a bug). It seems that it isn't that poorly received, it may be controversial, but not poorly received.

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