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Please, I kindly ask you to disable the flawed Stacks editor for new users. Most new users don't know how to manually solve the issues caused by this editor which leads to garbage posts and broken code.

There are a lot of issues with the new editor, but the primary two that caused the biggest harm are:

Please disable this editor as soon as possible. It's a terrible experience for new users and it's really difficult to fix by the rest. Some users flag such posts as VLQ or downvote and close it immediately, even if it would have been an ok question otherwise.

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    better feature request: disable the Stacks editor, period. It's nowhere near usable anywhere. All the testing that can be done has been done at this point; the only thing to do now is implement fixes, which SE doesn't seem interested in Commented Apr 1, 2022 at 20:14
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    Both of these issues with the stacks editor are reported and tagged status-review: escaping characters and breaking up code blocks
    – Henry Ecker Mod
    Commented Apr 1, 2022 at 23:03
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    Something this fundamentally broken shouldn't be left in to review taking it out, it should be taken out to review putting back in. Is there a status-fatally-flawed?
    – jonrsharpe
    Commented Apr 2, 2022 at 11:14
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    I haven't personally experienced any bugs with it, but because Markdown is easy to learn, disabling this shouldn't have too big of an impact. Commented May 30, 2022 at 21:07

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The stacks editor is not going to be removed from the new Ask Wizard.

A lot of bugs have been fixed with the Stacks Editor recently. You can check out the issues scheduled for work, and submit new issues directly on the GitHub project.

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    Please at least give us an option in the post UI to revert to using the old editor. Or better yet, allow users to opt into the new editor the same way. It works fine enough if you write the markdown yourself (there are some rendering issues at times when previewing) but the WYSIWYG mode is clearly not ready for primetime yet.
    – codewario
    Commented May 30, 2022 at 15:25
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    @BendertheGreatest I'd argue that even the Markdown mode isn't ready for prime time. I don't recall a time I've used that editor and not had it loose the entire contents of the post, at least once, while I was editing. Maybe it hasn't lost the entire contents some times when I'm only making a very minor change, but if I'm doing anything significant, I have to plan on having it loose the entire contents of the post.
    – Makyen Mod
    Commented May 30, 2022 at 19:19
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    As long as this editor is enabled, the safest and easiest option is to write markdown in a notepad and then paste into the new editor.
    – Dharman Mod
    Commented May 30, 2022 at 21:10
  • @Makyen I've never had that happen to me, but yikes - The worst I've had are issues with formatting getting mangled or removed when switching modes.
    – codewario
    Commented May 31, 2022 at 2:40
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    "A lot of bugs have been fixed with the Stacks Editor recently." Wow, and yet it's still bug-riddled to the point of being completely unusable? Here I had assumed it just wasn't getting any better because it wasn't getting any developer attention. All that hard work fixing bugs, and yet it's still unusable and roundly rejected by the userbase? That does not bode well for the future. Sounds like it's time to do what we've been saying all along and scrap it. See also: sunk-cost fallacy
    – Cody Gray Mod
    Commented May 31, 2022 at 5:38
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    Have those critical bugs been added to an (automatic) test suite? Commented May 31, 2022 at 11:58
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    The best way to get the team's attention for Stacks-Editor bugs is to file an issue. Round tripping / markdown (de)serialization bugs are among our top priority, so please submit any issues you're finding along those lines!
    – Ben Kelly StaffMod
    Commented May 31, 2022 at 13:58
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    Has there been any thought put into actually having someone on staff test the product, instead of expecting volunteer users to do all the testing and file bugs, @Ben?
    – Cody Gray Mod
    Commented Jun 3, 2022 at 3:35
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    @CodyGray no need for the condescension. We are testing the product all the time (we use it every day on our own internal SO Team) and there is testing built-in to the editor as well. Commented Jun 8, 2022 at 7:12
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    @YaakovEllis I am a software tester. "Using" a product and "testing" it are not the same thing and one cannot stand in for the other. If your standard of testing is whether or not the developers can use it, no wonder it's such a disaster. Get a software test professional on your team, stat. I can't stand it when people claim that testers aren't real programmers and then dump out garbage like the stack editor. Commented Jun 24, 2022 at 20:51
  • @YaakovEllis how long are we going to have two editors on the site? The key-bindings, icons, etc. are different for both of them so it is a confusing experience for new users as most of the help center articles etc. are still describing how to use the current editor only. See this recent post: meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/427286/… Commented Nov 24, 2023 at 6:56

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