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In Stack Overflow, for this question I tried to add tag . A popup to choose tags suggested this tag exists and I can choose it. The popup showed that it's been used 30 times.

I chose it, to add, and I got dialog for creating it, as a new tag. Huh?

I went ahead with that "creation", and I got a message saying the creation was refused because it is too similar to the existing tag . Huh?

Trying to add tag indicates that there is no SO tag . Huh?

The tag exists in emacs.SE. Is that why Stack Overflow suggested it to choose for SO and showed that it's been used 30 times? Why would it do that?

And especially, why would it suggest that I choose a tag, as if it exists, and then ask me if I want to create it, and then tell me I can't create it because it's too similar to another tag that isn't, in fact, similar?

This UI makes no sense to me. Not helpful at all. Am I missing something obvious?

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    +1 I tried to edit your question and had similar problems Jan 21, 2022 at 23:31
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    This makes no sense to me, I had no problems just... adding the tag. Jan 21, 2022 at 23:32
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    Looks like the {table} tag was burninated some time ago, which might explain the "too similar" message. Still doesn't explain the creation thing though.
    – zcoop98
    Jan 21, 2022 at 23:55
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    The table tag does actually exist. It's on 7,757 deleted questions. The system generally treats tags which only exist on deleted questions as if the tag doesn't exist. Part of that treatment is that to add the tag to a non-deleted question the tag must be "created". However, that doesn't explain the issues you were having with seeing the creation dialog for org-table tag, as that tag does exist on 31 non-deleted questions (the 30 questions reported to you plus the question you're asking about, as the tag has been added to that question).
    – Makyen Mod
    Jan 22, 2022 at 3:41
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    The burnination process is really bugged. For eg. it doesn't remove any synonyms of the burninated tag: meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/407678/….
    – Shambhav
    Jan 22, 2022 at 7:40
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    @Makyen: "The system generally treats tags which only exist on deleted questions as if the tag doesn't exist." Thanks for that info. That approach seems misguided, no? What does it really hope to accomplish? Especially if that's not the only assumption the "system" makes, and the result is a convoluted, incomprehensible, and error prone UI.
    – Drew
    Jan 22, 2022 at 16:47
  • That for most purposes deleted posts do not exist, so the system doesn't try to reason with something that doesn't exist.
    – Braiam
    Jan 23, 2022 at 1:47
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    @Braiam: I'd characterize such a design as "dumb, resulting from trying to be clever".
    – Drew
    Jan 23, 2022 at 4:05
  • @Drew That summarizes the entire site. I think there's a generational disconnect in the hard-won understanding that clever is a bad word. Jan 23, 2022 at 19:50
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    I would say that it's actually the result of laziness. Having to deal with post history of deleted post would be more challenging than simply acting like they don't exist and having a view that only considers non-deleted posts.
    – Braiam
    Jan 23, 2022 at 20:00
  • What is an "org table" and why does the tag need to exist on Stack Overflow? Do you mean "org chart"?
    – TylerH
    Jan 24, 2022 at 15:06
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    @TylerH: An Org table is specific to Emacs. It has meaning when tag emacs is used.
    – Drew
    Jan 24, 2022 at 15:52
  • @Drew Gotcha, so would emacs-orgtable or emacs-org-table be better? I see there's already an org-mode tag. Does that not cover the different objects you can make in an org file in Emacs?
    – TylerH
    Jan 24, 2022 at 16:27
  • @TylerH: Maybe; dunno. But why add the prefix emacs-? Org mode is huge. Tag org-table in emacs.SE has 300 uses, tag org-mode in emacs.SE has 5000 uses. Anyway, my post here is just about the crazy UI, not a quest for workarounds.
    – Drew
    Jan 24, 2022 at 16:40
  • @Drew The prefix would be so users mixing up 'table' and 'chart' terminology don't mistake "org-table" for what they want when they are talking about an org chart. If org-table becomes more popular, it could be incorrectly selected any time an asker posts about org charts, since it would show up before org-chart would.
    – TylerH
    Jan 24, 2022 at 16:43

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This is likely caused by an orphaned tag synonym.

There's a tag synonym to , even though neither of the tags exist.

See this on MSE for a similar but slightly different case, this for a proposal to auto-delete these synonyms, and this for a list of orphaned tag synonyms on Stack Overflow.

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