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Looking over my answer history from my profile page, I see multiple answers, but none with a negative score that would lead me to believe it is inferior (and which I can improve).

What information can I use to deduce which answer(s) I need to improve? The answer bans Help Center page gives me information on what I need to do, however, it provides no useful information in how to detect which answers need improving.

My profile page, with the questions, answers, reputation, and tags section visible; there are four total answers, three of which have a score of 0, one has a score of 1

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    if the post exists, and can be improved to state where it will be useful to future users, it is a good candidate for improvement that can help you get out of the ban. Positively scored, negatively scored, 0 score, closed, it doesn't matter. All that matters is that you gain upvotes and/or reduce downvotes.
    – Kevin B
    Commented Sep 1, 2021 at 20:11
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    You’ll need a mod to provide the links to your deleted answers, to see if you could salvage any of those. If the parent question itself was deleted, not much you could do.
    – yivi
    Commented Sep 1, 2021 at 20:14
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    Just in case you have deleted answers, keep in mind that they will also taken into account. Commented Sep 1, 2021 at 20:14
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    Thanks for the quick reply. I think your approach may have ramifications that could lead to some users needing to wait indefinitely for those upvotes to occur. I'm hoping to avoid that. To give you an idea, I have been unable to post for over a year now, and, no change to upvote or downvote status on any of my posts. While the suggestion that improvement to them could change this, what grounds do you have to believe that?
    – janst
    Commented Sep 1, 2021 at 20:18
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    @Robert this is about an answer ban, not a question ban. There is no “six month shot” for a-bans.
    – yivi
    Commented Sep 1, 2021 at 20:38
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    There are no quick fixes. The hole has been dug already. You can only work on your existing answers (and maybe even try to improve any question you answered), and hope they attract attention and upvotes.
    – yivi
    Commented Sep 1, 2021 at 20:39
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    You have the following 4 deleted answers: A1, A2, A3, and A4.
    – Makyen Mod
    Commented Sep 1, 2021 at 20:56
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    @janst A4 was deleted by a moderator, not yourself. While there are some differences as to how the system handles that (e.g. non-moderators can't undelete it), I'm mostly pointing it out due to a desire for accuracy (which might be a bit overboard).
    – Makyen Mod
    Commented Sep 1, 2021 at 21:08
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    @janst That info is largely covered in the existing FAQ on this topic, but the means of finding your own deleted posts that are old enough to age out of the "recently deleted" link at the bottom of your profile answers page isn't straightforward, and could be greatly improved.
    – zcoop98
    Commented Sep 1, 2021 at 21:20
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    @janst As is covered in many meta posts, the solution of abusing the answer box to post a request for clarification is not an acceptable solution. The fact that the system limits users to not commenting, except on their own posts, until they have >= 50 reputation is expected to be respected, not circumvented by abusing another feature.
    – Makyen Mod
    Commented Sep 1, 2021 at 21:23
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    It would be, so you have to resist the urge to help unless you know it will have a positive impact. The rep requirement is almost certainly because of the <expletive deleted>heads that would otherwise use SO as their own personal spam server. Commented Sep 1, 2021 at 21:25
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    My recommendation is pick and choose those first few questions. Pick questions that have concrete, exact answers where you know the exact answer. Pick recent questions because they get eyes a lot faster, at least for the first few hours. Don't add a new answer to a n old question that already has good answers. You may have a better answer, but save it for later because it's unlikely that anyone will see that answer for a few days. No point to coming back years later to find out the "answer that got you banned" was upvoted to War and Peace-status two days later. Commented Sep 1, 2021 at 22:28
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    Another couple of points: 1) Avoid posting answers to question asked a long time ago that already have lots of answers. You probably are not going to add anything that has not already been said already. (Read >>all<< of the other answers ... before adding yet another.) Some people will downvote late answers that don't add anything new. Simply because it then makes them candidates for deletion.
    – Stephen C
    Commented Sep 2, 2021 at 4:29
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    2) If your answer is simply relating your opinion and/or your experiences, consider that such answers tend not to be helpful. Good answers are based on verifiable objective facts, not opinions and anecdotal evidence.
    – Stephen C
    Commented Sep 2, 2021 at 4:31
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    Of course, this advice doesn't help is you have already written answers like this. Neither of those issues are easily remediable ... after the fact.
    – Stephen C
    Commented Sep 2, 2021 at 4:33

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Nominally, only positively scored answers will positively get you out of the hole.

However, I did look at your answers and I didn't see anything particularly wrong with them. They may just be overlooked in the deluge of other answers for questions in those tags.

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  • There's usually a deadweight of more highly downvoted and then deleted ones dragging things down. Commented Sep 1, 2021 at 20:26
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    @RobertLongson: Usually, yes, but...benefit of the doubt? Maybe I'm feeling benevolent today.
    – Makoto
    Commented Sep 1, 2021 at 20:34
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    After getting a single upvote by some kind individual, I was able to post my answer that was previously blocked. While thats great news. It feels a little too strict of an algorithm if stackoverflow wants to encourage new users.
    – janst
    Commented Sep 1, 2021 at 20:37
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    @janst: This is partly why I didn't want to jump to conclusions about this being the typical circumstance we see which is, someone jumps on Meta to complain about a ban and then they have like 20 downvoted questions. If one upvoted answer got you out of the hole, then you were caught in a unique edge case - I think you're OK.
    – Makoto
    Commented Sep 1, 2021 at 20:47
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    It's a catch 22, @janst. Stack overflow doesn't want answers. It wants good answers, and good is decided by the users helped by the answer and (usually in an initial burst after posting) other readers who think the answer should be helpful. Commented Sep 1, 2021 at 20:52
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    @janst - It’s supposed to be strict. If you submit high quality answers that are not deleted and are not downvoted then you move away from the answer ban threshold. Answer bans happen after a continued pattern of submitting low quality answers. Avoid using answers as a way to submit a long comment to take part in a discussion. I agree with a previous comment, you submitted a extremely low quality answer to a question that absolutely didn’t need another low quality answer Commented Sep 2, 2021 at 9:58

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