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So far, we have upvotes/downvotes to calculate reputation of users. By the given docs of Stack Overflow, upvotes/downvotes are a score that the community gives users to appreciate their contribution.

But by my understanding, it could be a hard way, simple to implement, hard to keep it safe and pure. Some users were/are/will be greedy to collect reps. It seems that the design of the system makes users greedy to collect reputation.

And it is not the only issue. Assume a user that answered a very basic critical question many years ago and then they stopped being active for a long time. But because of answering that very basic question they collect tons of reps. Now, alongside this user assume another user that tried to be active and answers many questions (mistakes, configs, how to use...) and receives just one or two upvotes for them and in the end the second user has less reps than the first.

Which one is more active? Which one is more helpful and useful for our community? Obviously the second user.

Solution: If we have a complicated mathematical/statistical system to count hours of being active, number of answers with upvotes (vote could be weight of each matrix) and totally we calculate of average these matrices to grab the real reputation of users it could be better.

It will avoid users to only collect reps and make eagerness for users to be active to help others, even the management could be very simple, there is no need to spend much time and energy for care about users, because the reputation is based on several criteria.

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  • for 99.999% of users, the solution will result in the same outcome. the users with privilege's to do stuff will still have privilege's to do stuff, and the ones without will still be without. What would this solve? If anything it may hurt answering rates.
    – Kevin B
    Commented Mar 31, 2021 at 15:12
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    What is the problem being solved here? People who want rep for the sake of rep will...still do the same. Having a complex mathematical formula will not dissuade them.
    – VLAZ
    Commented Mar 31, 2021 at 15:14
  • @AmerllicA Without gamification, would the site exist as it does today? Would it have a strong userbase? or would it just be like any other old-style forum with aging content and no new users or reason to improve yourself.
    – Kevin B
    Commented Mar 31, 2021 at 15:17
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    "it could help us" is... very intangible. Do you have a legit new calculation to suggest, HOW it would work? The impact it would have, and how it would change the community for the better? This.... lacks details I find :/. It's a "if we did things differently, it'll be better".... but without any idea of "differently", or "better"...
    – Patrice
    Commented Mar 31, 2021 at 15:18
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  • @Patrice, yes you right, I should investigate about criteria and bring more detail, for example, prepare a mathematical function as a good proposal. thanks.
    – AmerllicA
    Commented Mar 31, 2021 at 15:21
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    No, don't bother with the mathematical function. Interaction with the site is elastic and has no material expectation of it being permanent (e.g. you don't have to be logged in to see answers, and I think that there are some limited things that anonymous users can do too). Trying to calculate rep without knowing exactly how people interact or how people engage with the site is premature at best.
    – Makoto
    Commented Mar 31, 2021 at 15:24
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    Listen, I don't think many people here believe the current system is not deeply flawed (at least I hope so), but we probably heard everything there is to say a thousand times and by now this is tiring even to me (not to mention those who are here for a decade). You have all the tools at your disposal: SEDE, data dumps, old discussions. If you come up with something groundbreaking then sure, but now it just feels like going in circles. P.s. A personal opinion: don't underestimate peoples' abilities to circumvent or break anything you can throw [couldn't live with the shame of a typo] at them...
    – 0Valt
    Commented Mar 31, 2021 at 15:36
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    reputation ceases to be something that is in any way rewarding at 20k rep. anyone pushing past that is doing it for reasons other than just gaining rep, whether they realize it or not.
    – Kevin B
    Commented Mar 31, 2021 at 16:02
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    if you started your business in 1990 you will for sure have more money than someone who just start right now (even with a better idea ). What I understand for your question is that you simply want to earn more Rep faster and you are asking yourself Why didn't I create my account 8 years ago ?? Commented Mar 31, 2021 at 16:21
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    and honestly, if you are here only for the reputation (I remember all your old meta about bounties and fraud, etc) then you are wasting your time IMO. Reputation is a number that will never reflect any of your quality content. I know users having 2000 Rep and only 10 answers that are better than other user with million Rep and 1000+ answers. You can write 100 answers saying try this and simply remove the / while I am writing this: stackoverflow.com/a/51734530/8620333 .. you will earn more Rep but I beat you on the quality, content, SEO, etc Commented Apr 1, 2021 at 11:27
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    Surely there could be a lot of ways to make the rep system better. For example, the upvote of the high-rep users could worth more, resulting an eigenvalue calculation and a much better reputation evaluation. The problem is that any better rep calculation would be also more complex, and 1) the company behavior is that they are strongly against any modifications 2) they have clearly problems with complexity. You can see, practically all their rules are on the level of if (X > hardcodedConst) { ..} else {..}. We could talk about, why is it so. It is partially because money.
    – peterh
    Commented Apr 1, 2021 at 15:25
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    You think that the CEO is thinking every day on such things, how could the review/rep/voting system be made better? No! He has only superficial idea, roughly like a rep 300 user, how this works. It is nothing for him. What is important for him, that is their yearly budget. And the $ expectations of the Board. They get money from: 1) investors (they are now in the board and want their $ back, furthermore they have even lesser idea how the system works) 2) ads (here the problem is that we do not buy here anything and we have good adblockers). And others do not see the site 3) job SE 4) teams.
    – peterh
    Commented Apr 1, 2021 at 15:29
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    Note, a quick glassdoor.com query clearly shows that the SE pays very well for their developers, even on the USA customs. So they are not so bad, they have actually enough $ - they are only ignoring us because they still want to have so many.
    – peterh
    Commented Apr 1, 2021 at 15:40
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    @peterh, I think you mistake, your two comments are not related to this post.
    – AmerllicA
    Commented Apr 1, 2021 at 20:08

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The main thrust of the site is to gather high-quality answers to programming questions. The first user fulfills this criterion by providing an answer to a basic question that - by the signal that we have - is helpful and useful. The second user also fulfills the criterion so long as the signal for them answering questions remains consistent (that is to say, they may not have a big bang answer, but they have consistently well-received answers).

The less complex the rubric is, the better. Complexity allows uncertainty or confusion to lurk in the middle of it. The basic implication to reputation: you've either asked good questions or answered well.

That's all that's needed.

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