I was just reading No Thanks, Damn It!. This meta question covers the expected style with regards to salutations, thanks, as well as other decorations and/or embellishments that add a human touch to questions and answers here. However, while perusing the answers, I was particularly gobsmacked that a certain number of well-articulated and meaningful answers were community deleted with a This post is hidden. It was deleted 5 years ago by Community
notice.
As pertains to Meta, perhaps I don't understand. Why were these posts deleted when they were?:
- Valuable user feedback (answers or comments).
- Good discussions with other users.
- Content that the users actually put meaningful effort into making (i.e. not one sentence but well formatted, elaborated thoughts).
- Expenses - time is money, some of us participate here on work time and that isn't free time.
- Subjected to downvote thresholds that do not reflect sentiment by objective means.
On a site with 10 million users, one post was deleted that had 51 upvotes and 82 downvotes. How is that objective? Many other posts have such +/- distributions that are similarly deleted when a number of users have indicated positive support for the post.
In my humble (debatable) opinion, user feedback IS valuable. Users spend time reading the questions and dedicate valuable making answers. Why discount that so heavily for a few downvotes -- votes that are by percentage of site users but a drop-in-the-bucket of opinion on this site?
As a user who has been away for a while, when I come back here, I value reading what other users think and feel about things. I don't appreciate that their answers on meta here are deleted as such because their input means something to me as a fellow user.
I never thought of Stack Overflow as a strict wiki or overly sanitized forum - but that is the impression I am getting when I see how answers are being deleted based on votes.
I have never seen this site as a wiki so much as a hybrid wiki-conversation. What is a wiki-conversation? It is a bunch of live (living people) that can help when needed, help maintain common oft-needed helps, and also provide a little sense of community.
When I see answers being deleted, well thought out and articulated, opinions or other, I think they do belong here and should not have been deleted. The site seems heavy handed towards conformity and that obviously isn't me.
Regardless of how well this fits me, is this still the right ethos?
As far as Meta is concerned, maybe the deletion thresholds and/or criteria needs a second look.
I quote this answer on Understanding what's valuable to Stack Overflow:
It has been said that the golden rule here is preserve value. If the post adds any value whatsoever to the community, the site, or even the larger Internet, then it should not be deleted. That includes concerns as simple as breaking links to popular Q&A by deleting them. ... deletion is generally inappropriate and unwelcome.
I also quote user StackOverthrow's comment on that answer:
Actual practice is to close and delete a huge number of Q&As, both old and new, that provide considerable value but don't fit narrow interpretations of the site's format.
Meta, of all the places, is a place where a lot of important stuff is discussed. If you made a valuable contribution here, then I really want to see it. I want your post to be a first class citizen not cloistered away under the This post is hidden. It was deleted.
message umbrella. Obscuring user insight and behavior in this way, for the reasons provided seems regressive to this community.
For discussion.
Screenshot of deleted answer for <10k users: